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glokraw wrote: linux users don't generally appear to be 'cheerful' people.
I don't think you need to single out linux users here. Way too many people, especially those who inhabit the internet, aren't "cheerful". That's because they are inherently unhappy, stressed, and feeling unfulfilled. We live in a harsh world that reduces individuals to groups of commoditized slaves to be used, manipulated, and when no longer useful, then replaced. The only way out of that hell is by going inward. Get your self-worth from yourself. Entertain yourself. Amuse yourself. Challenge yourself. Be your own source of wisdom and inspiration. Etc.

Of course, the problem is that very few people have the ability to do this. So uncheerful they will remain.

And it doesn't matter a bit to me, because I love every day I have. I really look forward to each moment, confident that I'm always going to be able to enjoy my own life just by virtue of my ability to completely detach myself from the squalor of society's concept of "having a life".
At the linuxmusicians forum
I was kicked out of there for making a joke about male escorts. I still laugh about it. It amazes me how easy it is to manipulate the insecurities, prejudices, and general inadequacies of people (like a dull sense of humor). But then, because so many people are easily manipulated is why the world is the way it is. And why so many folks are uncheerful about it.

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j_e_g wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:21 pm
glokraw wrote: linux users don't generally appear to be 'cheerful' people.
The only way out of that hell is by going inward. Get your self-worth from yourself. Entertain yourself. Amuse yourself. Challenge yourself. Be your own source of wisdom and inspiration. Etc.
Yes, that is exactly who I am...

I was a 12-13 years old kid learning Classical Guitar with my Dad's friend - one-on-one, but I only made maybe 30 hours worth.

Then as teenagers do, they lose the plot... I could have been at a Music Academy and I did not want to go = silly me!

I knew I had a good mental disposition for patterns (as my guitar teacher told me, he even envied tne fact I had slim and not sweaty fingers, and I am not a tall person).

Many decades after the above, I self-learned electric guitar and plectrum work, until I manage to not care any more about the plectrum side - hand just moves by itself and soloing.
Now left hand too is well exercised. I can jump anywhere and get the correct notes 90% of the time.
All this done in 12-14 months of almost every day work (time permitting) - sometimes even as much as 4 hours continuously - that is too much, but there were the usual 'Eureka' moments of learning where you get that, haaaa - I can do that now and suddenly opened new doors for improvement.

So, yeah I certainly agree with you, I do this with anything I desire to learn - it is beautiful when you get some very good results, after a lot of hard work.

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PS sorry for not being here much, and that is why I did not start a separate Linux channel, just to give the right pointers and mainly to collect info around the net into ONE thread, to help anybody - me included.

I got some results in Linux, but not much... yet. Bitwig.deb seems fine.
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I dunno, I find Linux people optimistic (You have to be to have that energy to compile and configure, right?)
Seriously, though, I don't compile and I'm loving my Linux and the Linux community. It's a pain having to look up the answers sometimes, but they are usually there. All in all, I wouldn't read too much into one person's experiences over all others. The Linux community is small compared to other OSes, but it's still vast. And actually, Android OS is based on a Linux too.

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Have you tried Bliss android OS for PCs?

https://blissos.org/

download at https://sourceforge.net/projects/blissos-x86/

The .iso is 1.9 gig, would be cool to see if it works, and can connect to, and run some android based editors for misc music hardware.
Cheers

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j_e_g wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:21 pm I was kicked out of there for making a joke about male escorts. I still laugh about it.
It's a less cheerful place now, not that cheer is the core mission. I look at a few topics in my interest range each week there, and honestly can't remember a single joke having been posted in your absence :( Maybe all the linux party animals post jokes in the other 27 or so categories I never look in? :hyper:
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j_e_g wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:21 pm I was kicked out of there for making a joke about male escorts. I still laugh about it. It amazes me how easy it is to manipulate the insecurities, prejudices, and general inadequacies of people (like a dull sense of humor). But then, because so many people are easily manipulated is why the world is the way it is. And why so many folks are uncheerful about it.
There are so many people without humor nowadays.
So many people that are aswel narrow-minded and shallow. And that's strange in an open-source environment.

Could it just happened that you told the joke in the wrong way? Or that the message could be misunderstood? Or that it could be hurtful? You can tell a joke in so many different ways, and it can be misinterpreted so often.
On the internet you can also show little intonation, in your voice, smile,... and the 'smileys' can come across in the wrong way (sarcasm, ...).

I don't know the joke, or the context, so I can't assess it, but anyways. .... aside linuxmusicians.com, there are plenty of other forums where you are welcome to discuss the linux subjects. Perhaps your DAW has a forum with a linux section too? Such as Reaper?
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glokraw wrote: It's a less cheerful place now,
Well, it is run by a homophobe, and they aren't the sort to dance around waving "jazz hands".
can't remember a single joke having been posted in your absence
Apparently, I deserve some recognition. It's been long overdue. The last time I was recognized was years ago in a police lineup.

Anyway, the charges were dismissed, so it's almost as if I was innocent.

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j_e_g wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:51 pmThe last time I was recognized was years ago in a police lineup.
*badum* *tish*
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bulevardi wrote: There are so many people without humor nowadays.
And that contributes significantly to the increasing levels of depression, stress, malaise, and other mentally detrimental attitudes. It's ironic that, in times of difficulty, people fail to fathom that humor is a most effective means to deal with that difficulty. Instead, they just become more dour, which only aggravates their situation.
strange in an open-source environment.
Actually, I find it to be commonplace among minorities with a "jihadist agenda" to pursue (of whom OSS advocates tend to fit the profile). I've had lots of experience with these sorts, from Amiga users, OS/2 advocates, linux fanboys, and the like, to know that they typically aren't all that inclined to appreciate humorous perspectives.
you told the joke in the wrong way?
I told the joke to the "wrong" person. A homophobic 30-something male is not a good audience for a joke about a gay male escort service. And he runs linuxmusicians.com which is ironic itself given that he admitted that he's no longer making music, nor even using linux. His current interest is video game emulation software running on BSD unix. Yes, really.
the message could be hurtful?
I've been nothing but supportive. I even applauded after his wig fell off during his rendition of "it's raining men" at the local drag show.

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farlukar wrote: *badum* *tish*
Is that a snare drum hit and a cymbal crash? Or did you just release some intestinal gas? Or maybe both depending upon how explosive that release was?

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Yes on the former, no comment on the latter.
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farlukar wrote: no comment on the latter.
You know you've done something truly offensive when your dog rushes out of the room before he gets blamed for it.

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Thinking about adding a 2nd M.2 Nvme SSD drive to my computer , and dual boot Windows 11 and Linux on 2 different drives ... I'm thinking about PopOS 24.04 LTS ( alpha2 ) , Ubuntu (studio added) , or trying to install Arch ( Arch install method ) anyhow what Distros are you guys on ? Anyone dualbooting ?

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I don't dual boot, but I use Fedora. I'm moving to Fedora Silverblue with the next release (Fedora 41) which should be released any day now. :)
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(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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j_e_g wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 7:31 pm
farlukar wrote: no comment on the latter.
You know you've done something truly offensive when your dog rushes out of the room before he gets blamed for it.
Especially if you had to lure the dog into the room with porkchops strapped to your ankles :wink:

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