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Is there anything more intimidating than a new empty project?
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- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
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- 17889 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
Whatever it was I wanted to open when I created the new project. I don't just create a new project for no reason, although I pretty much never save them. Usually I will create one so I can load a new purchase or recently downloaded trial version up and put it through it's paces. Very rarely, maybe one time in a hundred, I might end up with something I want to save to work on later but mostly it's just for screwing around, in the forlorn hope it might shake loose something I can turn into a song.
I have never in my life put myself in front of my set-up (hardware or software) with the specific intent of writing a song. I have never had an idea in my head that I wanted to get out, all my song ideas come from just f**king around with the instruments and or sequencer.
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- KVRAF
- 4345 posts since 20 Feb, 2004
I just open up a softsynth and start dicking around. Or I load a drumloop or other sample and try to discern something musical about it.
Failing these, I open one of the hundreds of song-starters I've already made by doing the above.
Failing these, I open one of the hundreds of song-starters I've already made by doing the above.
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- KVRAF
- 2877 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit SW US
A rolling paper.
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- KVRian
- 800 posts since 18 Sep, 2010
In addition to the many ideas above, for songs that build up to peak energy, consider taking a fundamentally subtractive approach. Work on your full-on chorus early on, then start subtracting for build-up choruses, verses, etc. Think of your full-on chorus as your destination, with your build-up containing the hints, teasers, and increasing energy that creates the path there. If you know your destination, it's a lot easier to pick a path there, than to not know where you are going and meander around hoping a destination shows itself.
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- KVRian
- 1185 posts since 27 Apr, 2016
A 16, 32 or 64 bar loop that you have not got the fearlessness to push through into a track.
Chords or drums and a bass line usually get me started.
An empty project is the very essence of creation.
Chords or drums and a bass line usually get me started.
An empty project is the very essence of creation.
- KVRAF
- 2784 posts since 18 Apr, 2001
The saddest key of all
CrimsonWarlock aka TechnoGremlin, Moved to Reason and Rack Extensions exclusively (from Reaper and VSTs) several years ago.
- KVRian
- 991 posts since 24 May, 2024
I used to work faster when I was a lot more familiar with my synth patches. But this year I don't really have any synth patches, just WAY too many presets and no VSTi's that I completely comprehend. Whereas in the past, I had one hardware synth and that was it, so I learned how to use it 100%.
But what I'm thinking about doing soon is this:
1) set up a second computer to use as only a performance synth
2) use REAPER as a synth rack with multiple VSTi's per sound
3) performance jamm into the first computer as a multitrack recorder only
4) use step sequenced drums as a click track
But what I really need to do is switch off of software and get back into hardware.
But what I'm thinking about doing soon is this:
1) set up a second computer to use as only a performance synth
2) use REAPER as a synth rack with multiple VSTi's per sound
3) performance jamm into the first computer as a multitrack recorder only
4) use step sequenced drums as a click track
But what I really need to do is switch off of software and get back into hardware.
- KVRAF
- 2384 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc
Most intimidating for me is old project full of stuff to modify etc. It is like slap to forehead "why I did it like this" 
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- KVRAF
- 7120 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
This is pretty much how I go about it too, but instruments like guitar or keyboards then, sometimes a beat practicing drumsBONES wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:46 pm I have never had an idea in my head that I wanted to get out, all my song ideas come from just f**king around with the instruments and or sequencer.
- just keeping a dictaphone within reach to save an idea, just 15-30s or so
- I find it really difficult to remember exact frasing otherwise
- and frasing is everything for a riff or melody
So wanting to start something new
- I check out dictaphone for an idea that holds up for a second test
- or just delete those that don't pass the test
So there are loads of stuff on dictaphone always, since just playing around more often than finishing songs/projects.
- KVRAF
- 1746 posts since 3 Nov, 2023
- KVRian
- 991 posts since 24 May, 2024
I used to fantasize about using a pitch to MIDI converter on my dictaphone recordings to get really good musical ideas.
But the actual pitch to MIDI stuff doesn't seem to be at that level yet.
But the actual pitch to MIDI stuff doesn't seem to be at that level yet.
- KVRAF
- 2784 posts since 18 Apr, 2001
I'd say that is probably more of a recording issue than pitch-to-MIDI failing. With a good vocal take, results can be quite awesome.mjolnir wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:21 pm I used to fantasize about using a pitch to MIDI converter on my dictaphone recordings to get really good musical ideas.
But the actual pitch to MIDI stuff doesn't seem to be at that level yet.
CrimsonWarlock aka TechnoGremlin, Moved to Reason and Rack Extensions exclusively (from Reaper and VSTs) several years ago.
- KVRian
- 991 posts since 24 May, 2024
thanks i'll think about it.
