Why does that matter? Surely it is more important that it sounds good?biberact wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:15 amHow does Atomika compare to Ivoks by Red Rock Sound? Which one is closer to the original?
Cherry Audio's next synth is (probably) a Polivoks on steroids
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- 17761 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
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- KVRist
- 39 posts since 2 Feb, 2024
I agree that sounding good is more important but both plugins try to emulate an old classic so I think the question should be allowed.
That being said Atomika sounds great to my ears.
- KVRAF
- 37410 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Not tried Atomika but the IVOKS sounds very generic to mebiberact wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:36 amI agree that sounding good is more important but both plugins try to emulate an old classic so I think the question should be allowed.
That being said Atomika sounds great to my ears.
- KVRian
- 920 posts since 12 Jan, 2004 from Boston, MA
I'll say it, and get canceled, but so what?
I don't like Atomika, I don't think it sounds particularly "analogue," and I am unimpressed.
It is Cherry Audio's best yet, but I do feel like they have a long way to go before getting to the level of Softube, or UVI, or U-He, or Arturia's latest batch. I wish them well, and will pay attention to their next few releases, as they seem to be on an upward trajectory, but for me, Atomika isn't there yet.
I don't like Atomika, I don't think it sounds particularly "analogue," and I am unimpressed.
It is Cherry Audio's best yet, but I do feel like they have a long way to go before getting to the level of Softube, or UVI, or U-He, or Arturia's latest batch. I wish them well, and will pay attention to their next few releases, as they seem to be on an upward trajectory, but for me, Atomika isn't there yet.
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- 1746 posts since 3 Nov, 2023
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- KVRAF
- 2807 posts since 8 Sep, 2009
I'll get it for sure when it goes down to $29 again (think it will be around BF).
For my needs it does certain sounds perfectly. But that's only my opinion. Ymmv.
An example: I run ABL Pro, a mostly forgotten synth, just for one specific color it produces (made a patch long ago that I love until today). For any other use case I won't open it. Too difficult to tame, and it always has that signature sound.
For my needs it does certain sounds perfectly. But that's only my opinion. Ymmv.
An example: I run ABL Pro, a mostly forgotten synth, just for one specific color it produces (made a patch long ago that I love until today). For any other use case I won't open it. Too difficult to tame, and it always has that signature sound.
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Absolutely it should be allowed but I wonder why it would be important in this specific instance, as it isn't going to matter in the way it might for a MiniMoog or Oberheim emulation, in that it's not a synth very many people would be so intimately familiar with.biberact wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:36 amI agree that sounding good is more important but both plugins try to emulate an old classic so I think the question should be allowed.
If I am going to cancel you for anything, it would be spelling "cancelled" with one "l"!
What do you mean by "analogue" in this context? I think it sounds as analogue as any other top-notch emulation and better than a lot of them by virtue of the fact that it's got an even fatter sound than a lot of other synths.I don't like Atomika, I don't think it sounds particularly "analogue," and I am unimpressed.
There was definitely a time when that was completely true but some of their latest efforts have been as good as anything else out there. Have you spent any time with their Pro Soloist? It sounds absolutely amazing, especially when you consider that it is just a single oscillator per layer. It's capable of massive sounds that put a lot of other well regarded instruments to shame.It is Cherry Audio's best yet, but I do feel like they have a long way to go before getting to the level of Softube, or UVI, or U-He, or Arturia's latest batch.
Which one? "Doesn't" sound good or "doesn't" matter? If it's the former, you have ears of cloth or are just plain crazy.
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- KVRian
- 1419 posts since 7 Oct, 2023 from Tokyo
Perfectly valid opinion! I happen to completely disagree, but this synth was never going to be for everyone.Introspective wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 8:00 pm I'll say it, and get canceled, but so what?
I don't like Atomika, I don't think it sounds particularly "analogue," and I am unimpressed.
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- KVRAF
- 9145 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
I really don't care what synth or instrument kind is or what components is built from, software or hardware, digital or analogue. The most important thing for me is how inspired I feel when playing with it and, second, how stable it is on my system.
For Atomika, I give it 10/10 like Korg ARP 2600 and ARP Odyssey (software). Actually, now I solved the puzzle that made me wonder. What this 'missing' synth that Depeche Mode was using in some of the songs of their albums "Black Celebration" and "Music for the Masses"! I know I have read once that they used Polivoks but couldn't understand why and what's for. Now I know
It matches very well their dark mode of those two albums. It inspires me in my dark mode as well (the normal natural mode for me!
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Here is Starsky Carr's review:
For Atomika, I give it 10/10 like Korg ARP 2600 and ARP Odyssey (software). Actually, now I solved the puzzle that made me wonder. What this 'missing' synth that Depeche Mode was using in some of the songs of their albums "Black Celebration" and "Music for the Masses"! I know I have read once that they used Polivoks but couldn't understand why and what's for. Now I know
Here is Starsky Carr's review:
Using: Cubase Pro 15, Reason 13, Tascam US-4x4HR, MODX6, DM12D, LaunchKey 49, Yamaha guitar(Pacifica 612v) and bass (BB234) and some virtual instruments and synths.
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- 1746 posts since 3 Nov, 2023
Or maybe just a different opinionBONES wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:25 pm Which one? "Doesn't" sound good or "doesn't" matter? If it's the former, you have ears of cloth or are just plain crazy.
How original
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- 17761 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
No. An opinion would be "I don't like the way it sounds", which is completely valid, but if you want to say that it doesn't sound "good", you need some evidence to back that up. e.g. You probably know that I think that the ladder filter in a MiniMoog is complete krap and I can back that up by pointing out how raising the resonance attenuates the bottom end, ruining all the good work it's huge oscillators are trying to do. So what can you point to that makes Atomika sound bad?
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- 17761 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
I think those two are just about as good as it gets, along with GForce's SEM. If SEM had unison it would be my perfect synth. As it stands, Korg's ARP 2600 takes the cake for me, thanks to their inclusion of a SEM-like filter. The sheer sound quality it offers is unbeatable.EnGee wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 7:48 amFor Atomika, I give it 10/10 like Korg ARP 2600 and ARP Odyssey (software).
I'm also quite a fan of Cherry's Pro Soloist. If you have looked at it, it's well worth checking out.
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Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
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- KVRAF
- 9145 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
Yes GForce SEM and OP-X are great also.BONES wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 1:05 pmI think those two are just about as good as it gets, along with GForce's SEM. If SEM had unison it would be my perfect synth. As it stands, Korg's ARP 2600 takes the cake for me, thanks to their inclusion of a SEM-like filter. The sheer sound quality it offers is unbeatable.EnGee wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 7:48 amFor Atomika, I give it 10/10 like Korg ARP 2600 and ARP Odyssey (software).
I'm also quite a fan of Cherry's Pro Soloist. If you have looked at it, it's well worth checking out.
I will check Pro Soloist out. I’m also interested in their emulation/version of CAT.
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- KVRAF
- 1746 posts since 3 Nov, 2023
That's a technical fact, doesn't mean its good/bad. It just so happens you don't like that.BONES wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:28 pm You probably know that I think that the ladder filter in a MiniMoog is complete krap and I can back that up by pointing out how raising the resonance attenuates the bottom end, ruining all the good work it's huge oscillators are trying to do.
Its not a competition. If you like something, use it. If you don't, don't. It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.
How original
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- KVRian
- 1419 posts since 7 Oct, 2023 from Tokyo
I think PS-20 is the best MS-20 emu I have heard. Side-by-side reviews back that up, it's very close. I think it is better than Korg's.EnGee wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 1:18 pmYes GForce SEM and OP-X are great also.BONES wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 1:05 pmI think those two are just about as good as it gets, along with GForce's SEM. If SEM had unison it would be my perfect synth. As it stands, Korg's ARP 2600 takes the cake for me, thanks to their inclusion of a SEM-like filter. The sheer sound quality it offers is unbeatable.EnGee wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 7:48 amFor Atomika, I give it 10/10 like Korg ARP 2600 and ARP Odyssey (software).
I'm also quite a fan of Cherry's Pro Soloist. If you have looked at it, it's well worth checking out.
I will check Pro Soloist out. I’m also interested in their emulation/version of CAT.
And the price - $29 - is incredible.
