The linux DAW thread

[j_e_g]

porkchops strapped to your ankles

That reminds me I need to go shopping for a gift. Tomorrow is "National Parole Officers" day. I need to get a gift for mine. Last year he gave me a very expensive bracelet. Unfortunately, I have to wear it around my ankle every time I leave the house.

[glokraw]

If you're in a warm locale, like socal, some used moonboots from the Goodwill shop might obscure the expensive bracelet. One doesn't want to appear like a rival, when strolling through gang territory

[glokraw]

Tone2 have a handy utility, NanoHost, that lets you easily have a plugin as a standalone application, with preset handling and other capabilities. In the pic, there are Superwave P8, and Synth1, launched with a simple command, like

wine S8.exe

Both of these autoconnected in qjackctl. Changing presets in Superwave is done by alt n keucombo.
Synth1 handles it via it's own gui. Many great sounds, easily routed to linux effects

Tone2-NanpHost-SuperwaveP8-Synth1.jpg

[j_e_g]

Isn't this what carla does?

[planetearth]

For anyone looking for a database of plug-ins for their Linux-based DAW, check out this site: https://linuxdaw.org/

Some of you may have seen this site before, but if you haven’t, it’s worth a few minutes to check out the breadth and depth of the plug-ins they list in their database.

For each plug-in, the site lists its available formats (AU, CLAP, VST2, VST3, etc.), plus a couple of keywords for finding the plug-in on the site. Stop by their “About” page to get a sense what their mission is here.

Then go crazy and download 400 new plug-ins you’ve never heard of before. Why not?! You have the rest of the weekend to find some use for them!

Steve

[FranklyFlawless]

Then go crazy and download 400 new plug-ins you’ve never heard of before. Why not?!

I cannot justify allocating any resources to proprietary bloatware.

[planetearth]

Then go crazy and download 400 new plug-ins you’ve never heard of before. Why not?!

I cannot justify allocating any resources to proprietary bloatware.

Well, frankly, Frankly, it was a joke. Here’s why:
1) I don’t think anyone would try to actually download 400 plug-ins;
2) Most of these plug-ins are open source, so they’re hardly “proprietary”;
3) You can download only the plug-ins you want. This isn’t like how IKMM and Melda bundle their plug-ins; there is no “bloatware” here;
4) I doubt there are even 400 plug-ins in the database; and
5) It really was just a joke.

Steve

[FranklyFlawless]

1) I don’t think anyone would try to actually download 400 plug-ins;

I have a hard time believing that claim at KVR Audio Forum.

2) Most of these plug-ins are open source, so they’re hardly “proprietary”;

There is a "FOSS License" filter you can apply to the search results, so out of 597 plugins:

• 244 are FOSS.
• 353 are proprietary.

Therefore, your claim is incorrect by at least 109 plugins.

3) You can download only the plug-ins you want. This isn’t like how IKMM and Melda bundle their plug-ins; there is no “bloatware” here;

Proprietary software is unnecessary and treated as malicious bloatware in my workflow, so I cannot justify any amount of them under any circumstances.

4) I doubt there are even 400 plug-ins in the database; and

597 as mentioned earlier.

5) It really was just a joke.

Proprietary bloatware is not a laughing matter.

[glokraw]

Proprietary bloatware is not a laughing matter.

Neither is blanket disdain for software coders maintaining careers and businesses creating wonderful instruments, effects, libraries and utilities. Better to drive a beat, than an agenda.
There's a ton of proprietary software in the chips on the hardware circuits you use. Consider divesting yourself of all that hardware, and becoming an all-acoustic brusker,
if you have the chops

[FranklyFlawless]

Neither is blanket disdain for software coders maintaining careers and businesses creating wonderful instruments, effects, libraries and utilities.

I do not have blanket disdain for software coders, which has no direct relation to proprietary bloatware. I rely on software coders for all of the gratis and libre open-source software and firmware that I use in my workflow, and I also maintain my own LinnStrument firmware repository on Codeberg, among other repositories, so your implied claim has no credible evidence.

Better to drive a beat, than an agenda.
There's a ton of proprietary software in the chips on the hardware circuits you use. Consider divesting yourself of all that hardware, and becoming an all-acoustic brusker,
if you have the chops

My workflow is based on security, so my "agenda" is my own safety, which is a strictly hard requirement. Roger has already proven they are willing to provide STEP files for LinnStrument hardware modifications, which I have used for my LinnStrument Darker Mod (and its revision), and as mentioned earlier, I have a Codeberg repository for my own LinnStrument firmware, with the LinnStrument itself using the Arduino Due. My first post in this thread was about my music production workflow, specifically Surge XT and Ardour, and the laptop I use for all of that is the Librem 14, which uses PureOS (on a live USB), has open-source firmware for the embedded controller (thanks to System76), and uses Coreboot for first-stage boot firmware.

Even with all of this liberated hardware and firmware to various degrees, there are still plenty of binary blobs that have not been replaced with reverse-engineered equivalents, but considering acoustic instruments is prohibitively costly due to my musical background as a pianist/keyboardist. Pianos/keyboards, whether digital or not, also require a lot of space to allocate due to their keybed, so the LinnStrument has both cost and space-efficient benefits, among others. Regardless of my piano/keyboard "chops" and (lack of) financial resources, I am only interested in transferring my proficiency to the LinnStrument to further my self-expressive capabilities and realize my greatest musical potential.

[glokraw]

Congrats on your efforts to achieve security, you've put 'boots on the ground', and then spent money, which is a rarity among those in various advocacy discussions, at times more philosophical than physiological.

I looked at the Librem 14, around $1600 with 32 gig, and no corporate OS to futz with, doesn't seem unreasonable for a serious linux musician prioritising music over lifestyle. I watched Roger Linn's chords and scales video, a nice uncluttered presentation. I have an IK UNO synth, and quite enjoy it's (limited) flat keybed, as an alternate midi input device, as well as it's synth engine controlled by traditional keys. Were I in my twenties, I might consider a LinnStrument. In related video clips, it doesn't look like saving desk space is a priority, but a desk isn't even needed if you have an efficient small sound source. An 'old' Triton or Motif Rack might be a fun pairing. Proprietary as they may be.

Security, physical or cyber, depends on where you go, the strength of attackers, and the desirability of the target. A little common sense goes a long way.

You typed "Proprietary software is unnecessary and treated as malicious bloatware in my workflow, so I cannot justify any amount of them under any circumstances."

It is blanket statements like these that will lose you credibility among most musicians. Many would read that as insulting and inflammatory towards commercial developers, and pompous elitism beyond that. Such statements do little to increase interest in linux as a platform for musicians to consider. And that practice, in and of itself, won't serve one's creativity. Sure, there are plenty of linux music tools these days, I happily use many of them, but public attitudes are an important consideration if you hope to be taken seriously.
Mi dos centavos

a short LinnS tune:

[j_e_g]

a serious linux musician prioritising music over lifestyle.

You mean a guy living in his parents' garage who foregoes the cost of refilling his xan@x prescription so he can pay the internet overcharges needed to download every new release listed on distrowatch.

Security, physical or cyber, depends on the strength of attackers

That's why I pick fights only with 9 year old school girls. Some of those kids are tough. Glad I bought those brass knuckles.

Many would read that as insulting and inflammatory

I wouldn't know anything about that.

[farlukar]

:yawn:

[glokraw]

Isn't this what carla does?

I think there is a separate carla loader for single plugins, but I've not seen it mentioned in ages, and don't know it's extra hosting abilities, if they exist, should it still be supported. For windows plugins, there were a couple config steps to do in the full linux carla, but none of the linux daws have been as good as windows Reaper in wine, for scanning and running windows plugins, or their wrapped counterparts in the linux Reaper version. (I should add that I haven't done any comparisons lately, as the posts about plugin issues in competing daws have not diminished in the last couple of years. The yabridge wrapper has been helpful.)
Cheers

[glokraw]

a serious linux musician prioritising music over lifestyle.

You mean a guy living in his parents' garage who foregoes the cost of refilling his xan@x prescription so he can pay the internet overcharges needed to download every new release listed on distrowatch.

Security, physical or cyber, depends on the strength of attackers

That's why I pick fights only with 9 year old school girls. Some of those kids are tough. Glad I bought those brass knuckles.

Many would read that as insulting and inflammatory

I wouldn't know anything about that.

People are so tightly wound lately. Having had to choose between a newer car, or newer gear, I chose the gear, after having found a mechanic that might succomb to the odd brass knuckle in a billing dispute. I saw a couple schoolgirls in a knockdowndragout fight, and briefly thought I should break it up, but realized they would probably team up against me, for invading their space...
'Drive on, Jeeves'...