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Frankie.T wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 2:29 pm Are you guys serious?
I'm serious about keeping my studio system as bloat free as possible. I'm also serious about my concerns that some developers seem to think that just because you buy something from them that gives them the right to do anything they wish with our systems simply because it's convenient for them.

Are there other issues like DRM? Yes but that's not the subject at hand.

If none of this bothers you then simply ignore it and go back to sleep.......
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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kidslow wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 5:09 pm
Teksonik wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:27 pm Unfortunately if you've had Melda plugins installed in the past it doesn't clean up any old files. I guess a complete uninstall/reinstall would be in order.
That's what I did, and it recovered a good amount of that space. Still bloated, but less so.
I believe some presets and configuration files live inside that mess, so I started by cloning it all off to the side. Their file layout on the drive rivals Acustica's in its spaghetti mess of organization. As always, a likely window into the disorganized mess of their code itself.
I just uninstalled the whole lot on this system. The Melda Plugin Manager supposedly allows you to delete the plugins but they and all the support files remained so I just went through and manually deleted all the files from their various locations.

I don't need the plugins on this system so the free drive space is welcome on an SSD that is reaching near its limit. Eventually this system will be replaced so no sense faffing about with a new drive at this point.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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I can verify that the melda uninstaller does not actually remove 600+ mb of stuff from the appdata folder on windows, although I think it does remove one copy of all that, so to install only the superlooper on my system it seems to have installed 1.2 GB of presets and whatnot, multiple copies I guess. And when you use the add remove programs feature in windows it will only remove one copy of the melda data. You have to manually delete the rest, though they don't really let you know it is there at all. :shrug:

Probably anyway, I cant say I looked at too much before running the uninstaller. Still, in the end, it seems like there is no way to automatically remove the data.

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Teksonik wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 7:16 pm If none of this bothers you then simply ignore it and go back to sleep.......
Forums are meant for discussions, not to shut up everyone who thinks differently from you.

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pekbro wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 5:06 am I can verify that the melda uninstaller does not actually remove 600+ mb of stuff from the appdata folder on windows, although I think it does remove one copy of all that, so to install only the superlooper on my system it seems to have installed 1.2 GB of presets and whatnot, multiple copies I guess. And when you use the add remove programs feature in windows it will only remove one copy of the melda data. You have to manually delete the rest, though they don't really let you know it is there at all. :shrug:

Probably anyway, I cant say I looked at too much before running the uninstaller. Still, in the end, it seems like there is no way to automatically remove the data.
This can become a little messy, when upgrading the Installer, as there will also be some left overs from the older one. All in all though; show some love for Melda, those are some great tools, period.
You can be creative in any right place on Earth, and not only in the wealthiest cities. Bring the world feelings from everywhere, and not only feelings of capitalistic or jail environment.
― Aleksey Vaneev


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chagzuki wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:44 am MdynamicEQ became my goto EQ.
Same here.

Was never put off by the nag screen. Used the free version of the EQ (which is great BTW) and when the full fat version was on sale, I didn't hesitate.

Agree that some of their GUIs need to be overhauled, but the MdynamicEQ looks and works beautifully for me.

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Frankie.T wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:13 am
Teksonik wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 7:16 pm If none of this bothers you then simply ignore it and go back to sleep.......
Forums are meant for discussions, not to shut up everyone who thinks differently from you.
I didn't tell you to shut up. I told you to ignore the issue if it doesn't bother you and go back to sleep if you think developers should have every right to do what they wish to your system.

If you have time to waste on a subject that doesn't bother you then I think you need to re-examine your priorities. Nothing you say will change the way I think and I could not possibly care less what you think so it's all pointless. So for that reason I'm out....... :arrow:
El°HYM wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:16 am All in all though; show some love for Melda, those are some great tools, period.
It's very possible to love the Melda plugins but dislike the way they are installed. Two different subjects.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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martinjuenke wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 8:48 am Melda seems to be like Acustica:
You love or you hate it.
Nothing in between.
MMarmite? ;) (one for UK readers).
DarkStar, ... Interesting, if true
Inspired by ...

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I own licenses for a few of their plugins but due to the bloat that was installed with them and the the UI,I have uninstalled all of it and don’t even consider them anymore. I only have a 256 gig drive so I don’t have space for nonsense and I’m kinda obsessed with keeping everything clean and organized-removing leftover junk from demos and unnecessary folder,files,installers,caches,preferences,presets etc. I really don’t like all the mess that plugin companies make sometimes, wouldn’t matter if I had a 200 TB drive,I don’t like it.

Arturia too,I got rid of both collections and kept pigments,the Arturia folder was like 30 gigs

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El°HYM wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:16 am
pekbro wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 5:06 am I can verify that the melda uninstaller does not actually remove 600+ mb of stuff from the appdata folder on windows, although I think it does remove one copy of all that, so to install only the superlooper on my system it seems to have installed 1.2 GB of presets and whatnot, multiple copies I guess. And when you use the add remove programs feature in windows it will only remove one copy of the melda data. You have to manually delete the rest, though they don't really let you know it is there at all. :shrug:

Probably anyway, I cant say I looked at too much before running the uninstaller. Still, in the end, it seems like there is no way to automatically remove the data.
This can become a little messy, when upgrading the Installer, as there will also be some left overs from the older one. All in all though; show some love for Melda, those are some great tools, period.
It's not an issue of whether or not the plugins are good, they are intentionally bypassing the windows installer for a ridiculous amount of data and not providing a means of removal. It's
not only presets in there, god knows what other changes they have made to the system and registry that can not be removed via that folder. Maybe most don't care, but those with limited
space have reason to be concerned. While it's likely done to make it easier for the plugins to
function around windows security and whatnot, there is no good reason to leave it on someone's
system unbeknownst to them.

Honestly, many complain about iLok, but I would wager that melda's line is probably the most
intrusive of any manufacturer from a systemic standpoint.

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Like I have said; the installer is messy, the plugins are overall pretty good.
You can be creative in any right place on Earth, and not only in the wealthiest cities. Bring the world feelings from everywhere, and not only feelings of capitalistic or jail environment.
― Aleksey Vaneev


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ChanceB wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 3:48 pm ...

Arturia too,I got rid of both collections and kept pigments,the Arturia folder was like 30 gigs
And this to put into the same basket like the 1 gig of Melda??? :o
I agree with Arturia being bloatware... same like with many many sample libraries just blowing up sample sizes to increase the size as people get the impression bigger would be equal to better...

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Trancit wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 10:38 am
ChanceB wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 3:48 pm ...

Arturia too,I got rid of both collections and kept pigments,the Arturia folder was like 30 gigs
And this to put into the same basket like the 1 gig of Melda??? :o
I agree with Arturia being bloatware... same like with many many sample libraries just blowing up sample sizes to increase the size as people get the impression bigger would be equal to better...
Not really no,well kind of. I just threw Arturia on there at the end because someone had mentioned them and I believe Arturia installs all the assets for the whole v collection when you install Analog lab and they also install duplicates of the vst and vst 3 files of all their plugins.So yes they are both installing stuff I don’t want installed,only Arturia is on a whole different level of bloat than Melda. Anyway I’m not trying to bash either company, they make good stuff,I just wish they and other companies would keep it neat and tidy like FabFilter, Sugar Bytes, Synapse, Xfer etc.

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