Artemis: 6-voice Synth from Dreadbox + Sinevibes

[cryophonik]

Probably deserves its own thread

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https://sonicstate.com/news/2024/11/05/ ... ynthesizer

Features:
Oscillators
Two VCOs with waveshaping, PWM, FM
Sub-oscillator and noise generator
Filters
24/12dB super-creamy resonant low pass filter with key tracking, drive and oscillator/noise FM
High pass filter
Envelopes
Two ADSR envelopes, one dedicated to VCA and one for low pass filter
Cutoff and VCO FM amount with smart, user-friendly control
LFOs
Polyphonic LFOs with BPM sync, fade in, and a variety of waves
Cross-mod controlling VCO pitch, filter cutoff, VCO wave and VCO pulse width
Four stereo Sinevibes effects that can be used at the same time
Reverb
Delay
Modulation effects: chorus, ensemble, etc.
Distortion / bit crusher
640 presets in 10 banks of 64 each
Polyphonic sequencer
Arpeggiator
MPE compatible
Polyphonic aftertouch
Mod wheel, aftertouch and velocity modulation matrix

Price: $1399 USD

[cryophonik]

[Constructed Identity]

Or there is the DIY Nyx that sounds great and is cheaper.

[kritikon]

Looks interesting indeed. I really do love the Dreadbox filter sound but dunno why I never pull the trigger on any of them. Sometimes they look too fiddly with too much menu diving or sometimes too basic, but this one seems to cut through both of those objections. Some random thoughts on first look:

1. Possibly a bit pricey. I know it's 6 voice, but still - it's likely to be around $2500 in NZ if it gets here at all (at least double the UK pounds and then they add on several hundred). I can buy me a LOT of synth for $2.5k. For sure that'll get me a Behringer Jupiter when it finally comes out.
2. Despite the price, omifkngod that filter is gorgeous, it always is. One day I have to have some kind of Dreadbox.
3. I really like that FM is making a big comeback in analogue synths - seems to be everywhere and I dunno why it lost favour?
4. Waveshaping too? Nice - also making a welcome comeback.
5. That 2nd vid - lots of stereo dropouts. Dunno whether it was video editing or loose connection etc but it looked like several occasions where knob-fiddling directly cut out one side. If that was the synth, then it's a huge bug needs fixing.
6. I like the 6-voice architecture. There are quite a few 4 voice jobbies and I already have 2 of them, but 4 voice is generally not quite enough for proper poly noodlings - useful for other stuff though. For me 6 always used to work with Junos etc so they hit the spot with 6 voices. 5 is silly, 8 is good but expensive, 16 is just overkill (outside of monster unison patches I never once needed 16 voices on my UBXa though it would be churlish of me to complain ).

[AcrossTheSky]

Nahhh - MultiPoly wins - the best emulation of an analog signal .
Not sure what drugs they're on but this $$$ much for it is an early April's 2025 stupid joke ..

[kritikon]

For sure you get a whole lot more on a multi/poly for less. That's apples vs oranges though. I have Opsix and Wavestate and though the filters are good, I consider them still very VA sounding. You'll get a lot of decent liquid sounds out of a multi/poly but to my ears no digital stands up to real character analogue filters. I know they did a lot of modelling etc but I can directly compare the Korg filters to...errr real Korg filters. They're not the same. Similar character is all. Dreadbox stand out to me as one of the great filter makers alongside Korg, PWM and a few others. But I do agree, I think they might have gambled wrong on the price.

[lfm]

About price
#1. Being a european company maybe they manufacture everything themselves here
- or are their units made in China?

Wages in a western countries are very high in comparison.
- and tools for molding plastic box and stuff
- purchase components and mount of circuit boards

#2. Maybe they decided to go with the best external components for the chips

I had a thread about just that recently, how external component quality affect the sound just as much.
- my theory anyway that it is an overlooked part of how a unit sound
- my own experience was building/modifying a DAC replacing all capacitors with incredible result

The filters are praised by many here, is that because of chosen quality on capacitors?
- and all components for that matter

[kritikon]

Made in Greece AFAIK. Having said that, I doubt very much they make their own components and more than likely use bog standard Asian-made ones. There are very few synths that don't, no matter where they're made. Plenty of classic synths with screaming filters were made using bog standard off the shelf components.

[egbert101]

The company that produced this woke nonsense:

https://www.dreadbox-fx.com/nymphes/

[lfm]

Having said that, I doubt very much they make their own components and more than likely use bog standard Asian-made ones. There are very few synths that don't, no matter where they're made. Plenty of classic synths with screaming filters were made using bog standard off the shelf components.

My comment was purely about making own like boxes
- serious expensive stuff if to mold own plastic boxes
- unless bent metal which is much cheaper

Surely electronic components are made all over the world, I guess.

Standard components can have very different specs

The DAC project
"The silver cans are power supply electrolytes, we may change these for Blackgates, os-cons, TEAPO, Jackon Low ESR and stuff like that. You may also experimnt with tantalum caps - the result I havent yet tested but of course I will."

"2. fully upgraded by WIMA MKP and TEAPO lytics low esr shitty but cost effective caps.
3. As above but with the best OS-CONS - Sanyo caps regarded to be the best for digital.
"

"The subjective feeling was that the trebles from Tantalum were so much superior to the other four that it was shocking. They were airy, pure, clear, strong, beautiful. Just the best I ever heard. But the rest of the spectrum did not match. The balance was tilted.

Os-cons on the other hand sound ..... like nothing at all. Equipment disappears and the musicians simply come to me. No trebles no bass - just total transparency and insight into the event. Quite spectacular feeling. I was amazed.
Teapo had very strong bass and everything else was really good. I could live with that. Considering its low price and good availability - a great value. MUCH above the standard board.
"

http://lampizator.eu/LAMPIZATOR/LAMPUCE ... zator.html

There are major differences in properties for components.
- doing the hi end choices all the way the result will be noticed
- and some of it on the price tag too



When a chip has instant higher demand on current capacitors near by will deliver power not needing to go all the way from power supply.

If a chip getting a drop on voltage that will affect the analog output too in the end.
- first the low level harmonics at hi end will suffer
- this give a lush hi end when that works

I bought the standard board with power supply for $100 on eBay, then spent another $60 on capacitors and then a metal box.
- and got a DAC that is superior to anything shipped with medium prices electronics CD, DVD and BD players.

[lfm]

The company that produced this woke nonsense:

https://www.dreadbox-fx.com/nymphes/

I saw Time Shoebridge review that one.

Don't remember verdict, but something about choices for panel.

[whyterabbyt]

But I do agree, I think they might have gambled wrong on the price.

Dreadbox offer plenty of lower-budget options, including the 6-voice Nymphes at £400, and eurorack modules at £60-£90. If you want cheap Dreadbox, they do cheap Dreadbox.
But its not all they do and Im actually pretty sure they'll have no difficulty shifting these. Abyss was a 4-voice poly at £999 in 2017 for example. Murmux is twice the cost of this. Their higher-cost products sell. They also seem to do relatively short runs, so their customers for those products are aware of that 'boutique' thing.

[revvy]

The company that produced this woke nonsense:

https://www.dreadbox-fx.com/nymphes/

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[cryophonik]

But I do agree, I think they might have gambled wrong on the price.

Dreadbox offer plenty of lower-budget options, including the 6-voice Nymphes at £400, and eurorack modules at £60-£90. If you want cheap Dreadbox, they do cheap Dreadbox.
But its not all they do and Im actually pretty sure they'll have no difficulty shifting these. Abyss was a 4-voice poly at £999 in 2017 for example. Murmux is twice the cost of this. Their higher-cost products sell. They also seem to do relatively short runs, so their customers for those products are aware of that 'boutique' thing.

Exactly. And, as I mentioned in another thread, name another 6-voice analog poly with those specs for the same price (or less). Yeah, Behringer, and that's about it. Nothing wrong with Behringer, but this synth isn't targeting that market.

[egbert101]

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