What's on your Black Friday radar?

[EnGee]

https://www.korg.com/us/news/2024/1111/

I’m interested in Korg Gadgets 3. I think they might be a quick way to access sounds with simplified features.
What’s the difference between the Mac only and Mac/PC versions? Why there is a difference in the price?

[Gribs]

https://www.korg.com/us/news/2024/1111/

I’m interested in Korg Gadgets 3. I think they might be a quick way to access sounds with simplified features.
What’s the difference between the Mac only and Mac/PC versions? Why there is a difference in the price?

The PC version is only the plugins with no workstation sequencer like the iPad and Mac versions. On PC you will have to use the plugins in the DAW of your choice. For some reason, Korg decided to ignore converting the Gadget DAW to PC.

[Gribs]

Korg just announced their black friday stuff. any recommendations?

The Collection has a lot of good stuff in it. I even like the old Triton workstation software and the Electribe. I am going to upgrade from 4 to 5 to get the Odyssey plugin.

I must be one of the few not interested in the Wavestation or Wavestation. I own the OpSix (and hardware!) and Modwave native plugins already. Frankly, I think the Modwave is a fantastic synth. Also, I learned this AM that Reverb is blowing out mk1 Modwave hardware synths for $350 if you want hardware. I am not going for that, but I know a guy who pulled the trigger already.

[N 4 LIFE]

thanks Gribs. I already have korg collection five and it is great. i may look into some of their apps. but if i do that, i have to buy an iPad i think. that's not gonna happen this year.

[EnGee]

The PC version is only the plugins with no workstation sequencer like the iPad and Mac versions. On PC you will have to use the plugins in the DAW of your choice. For some reason, Korg decided to ignore converting the Gadget DAW to PC.

I see. Thanks.

So, how the 40 modules would appear on my DAW? as individual plugins? or one main program to load them (like Reaktor and its ensembles)?

[foosnark]

35Go

Wait, are you serious??

That sounds about right. The subset that I have installed is 14.7. The Augmented instruments I have installed range from about 2-3GB each (samples plus code), Mellotron is around 2GB, Synclavier about 1.1GB.

[Gribs]

The PC version is only the plugins with no workstation sequencer like the iPad and Mac versions. On PC you will have to use the plugins in the DAW of your choice. For some reason, Korg decided to ignore converting the Gadget DAW to PC.

I see. Thanks.

So, how the 40 modules would appear on my DAW? as individual plugins? or one main program to load them (like Reaktor and its ensembles)?

I am pretty sure it is all individual plugins. Look for youtube videos.

[EnGee]

The PC version is only the plugins with no workstation sequencer like the iPad and Mac versions. On PC you will have to use the plugins in the DAW of your choice. For some reason, Korg decided to ignore converting the Gadget DAW to PC.

I see. Thanks.

So, how the 40 modules would appear on my DAW? as individual plugins? or one main program to load them (like Reaktor and its ensembles)?

I am pretty sure it is all individual plugins. Look for youtube videos.

Great thanks

[IvyBirds]

I'm afraid that is incorrect.
You can not do what MPE allows you to, with the DX7 engine 'as is'.

When I asked you what you wanted to do with MPE you said

Play beautifully expressive FM sounds.

Twist that operator and mangle the algorithm, slide the ratio, wiggle the op feedback…

Again all of those things can be done as is with the DX7 engine

You made no mention of wanting to do those per note

Well, the context was MPE, which by default stipulates per-note expression.

I know what MPE is, and I know how it works with FM if you choose. In fact I have it in my Montage M, and in HALion7 inside if Cubase using FM-X, it available inside of F-em which I also own but don't use much in favor of FM-X inside of Yamaha/Steinberg products

For a hardware synth to be an 'MPE' synth, it needs to have the right playing 'MPE' surface, and your Montage doesn't have one. It's not an MPE instrument.

(BTW, I have a Montage 8 sitting behind me...)

And yet you are seem to be unaware that the new Montage M 8X generates Polyphonic aftertouch which can be used with MPE. Something your older Montage 8 can't do. You also seem ignorant to the fact that using Cubase and HALion7 you can do all kinds of things with MPE and use the new Montage M8x to play and build sequences with it

FM is something I specialise in. Even 'standard' FM as seen in the DX7 offers enough to create very expressive MPE sounds.
I created my first proper MPE sounds with a 3-op FM engine (Equator) many years ago, so a full blown FM engine (however archaic the original DX7 is) would be even nicer.

Apparently you don't specialize in it as much as you think. If you did you would already be aware of the MPE capabilities of both FM-X inside of HALion7 and F-em. You would also be aware that those tools can do anything the DX7 engine can do plus a whole lot more

You would also be aware that using HALion7 you can even import DX7 patches using DX7 sysex and then assign whatever MPE controls you want to anything using Note Expressions in Cubase

https://www.steinberg.help/r/halion/7.0 ... age_r.html

https://archive.steinberg.help/cubase_p ... ion_c.html

https://www.steinberg.help/r/cubase-pro ... ion_c.html

You most certainly wouldn't think that Arturia not including it in DX7 matters at all as you would already be using other MPE enabled FM Tools that can do everything that the DX7 can do and then some

The full blown FM MPE engine you want already exists, and has for several years now, see that's something you know now

Feel free to shot me a PM if you want to be educated further in using FM with MPE. I will be more than happy to help since you obviously think you know more than you do and have obvious gaps in your knowledge

And keeping this on target, Tracktion F.'em historically has been a part of a Black Friday sale for as little as $29, Cubase 14 is currently on sale, and it wouldn't surprise me to see HALion7 go on sale for BF also

[SLiC]

Nexus5

[swilow11]

You most certainly wouldn't think that Arturia not including it in DX7 matters at all as you would already be using other MPE enabled FM Tools that can do everything that the DX7 can do and then some

The full blown FM MPE engine you want already exists, and has for several years now, see that's something you know now

Feel free to shot me a PM if you want to be educated further in using FM with MPE. I will be more than happy to help since you obviously think you know more than you do and have obvious gaps in your knowledge

And keeping this on target, Tracktion F.'em historically has been a part of a Black Friday sale for as little as $29, Cubase 14 is currently on sale, and it wouldn't surprise me to see HALion7 go on sale for BF also

Do you ever wonder why nearly every conversation you're in here devolves into you belittling other participants?

I have a theory...

[martinjuenke]

You most certainly wouldn't think that Arturia not including it in DX7 matters at all as you would already be using other MPE enabled FM Tools that can do everything that the DX7 can do and then some

The full blown FM MPE engine you want already exists, and has for several years now, see that's something you know now

Feel free to shot me a PM if you want to be educated further in using FM with MPE. I will be more than happy to help since you obviously think you know more than you do and have obvious gaps in your knowledge

And keeping this on target, Tracktion F.'em historically has been a part of a Black Friday sale for as little as $29, Cubase 14 is currently on sale, and it wouldn't surprise me to see HALion7 go on sale for BF also

Do you ever wonder why nearly every conversation you're in here devolves into you belittling other participants?

I have a theory...

Shrinking them into his own size?
Asking for a friend...

[carrieres]

35Go

Wait, are you serious??

35,7Go for V Collection 9 mainly used by the Augmented synths

[ghettosynth]

Strongly considering V Collection.

Since I already have Easel and Synclavier...

I'm mostly motivated by Minifreak here, but I found I like CS80, CZ, Jup 8, Mellotron and Vox Con for various reasons, plus Prophet VS despite some apparent bugs. Some of the others I thought I'd like, I didn't particularly. Seems like a good deal though and I'll go for it, even though I really don't need more synths

I'm not super thrilled about the UIs wasting so much space, combined with growing the window when you open settings/advanced features, and then sometimes reshrinking itself to fit on one monitor when I wanted to stretch it over both, and sometimes pushing its own resizable corner offscreen where I can't fix it... It's more tolerably with some of their instruments than others. I noped right out of the Arp 2600 real quick.

As much as the 2600 is annoying, and also that it's not very good, it's still a lot of fun with the sequencer.

I'm tempted, but I dunno. It's at $99 for me and I'm on V6, so it's not like I won't get a bunch of new synths. But a 303, no, I f**king don't need that. Don't get me wrong, I love me a 303, but my B.303 gets the job done for me.

[ghettosynth]

Yeah, a lot of “Augmented” this or that.

I kind of dismissed the whole Augmented thing as just another rompler, a way to release "content" without much DSP development, etc. I'm not super thrilled about sample-based instruments for the most part, aside from maybe a Mellotron or other lo-fi weirdness once in a while.

But Augmented Voices at least seems pretty good for eerie ambient stuff. I'm at least going to try Woodwinds and Strings, now that I've already paid for the whole pile.

The Augmented piano is actually very good for that also. Especially if you use sparse minimal notes

Well god damn it, I'm trying not to buy it.