Which DAW would you recommend coming from FL Studio? Bitwig, Ableton, Cubase etc.

[Lerian]

FL Studio is a very powerful daw, if you're using it to its full extent. With patcher and scripting you can do anything. Also the included plugins are exceptionally good.

If you want something equally powerful but in a different workflow, get reaper. For playing live, ableton live is still the only good choice. If you want to play modular get bitwig, even though FL Studio can also do most of it.

[EnGee]

Choose whatever your mind works better with and which one you feel more pleasure with.

Personally, I choose Live over Bitwig, and Cubase over S1 (that on Windows). AB Live 12 is the overall winner for me if I must choose one DAW, but I have the Standard version which is OK but Suite is the one to go really. Its arrangement view is much better than Bitwig's one. It is more responsive and more elegant to my taste. I enjoy working with Live but you need sometime to get used to the shortcuts. The synths and drums provided are fantastic, really the best among the DAWs.

Cubase is my second DAW now on Windows (Logic/Live on Mac). It is really a powerful DAW and for me it is also a pleasure to work with but it has a slow start/quit process. Anyway, this is very minor IMO. I spent many years with Cubase, so I know my way better than other DAWs. It is a heavyweight DAW though!

[Dionysos]

One thing you may find missing in Bitwig or Live coming from FL is their lack of a pattern system (or shared copies/linked/alias/ghost clips). It took me a while to adapt my arranging workflow to work around it, and to be honest I still miss the feature. It just saves a lot of boring busywork if you make mostly loop-based music.

[xbitz]

One thing you may find missing in Bitwig or Live coming from FL is their lack of a pattern system (or shared copies/linked/alias/ghost clips). It took me a while to adapt my arranging workflow to work around it, and to be honest I still miss the feature. It just saves a lot of boring busywork if you make mostly loop-based music.

Yes, because in these DAWs, the repeating sequences go into sequencers, and the pattern selector is used in the arranger, that's why, for ex even the Channel Rack has been reproduced in AL


it has second incarnation https://marianosibilia1992.gumroad.com/ ... ut=profile

Bitwig is a different kind of beast — here, you have to create your own sequencers in noteGrid, but in return, you can put whatever you want into it. For example, I needed retrigger functionality.

[Dionysos]

Yes, because in these DAWs, the repeating sequences go into sequencers, and the pattern selector is used in the arranger

Yeah, no, I'd never accept that sort of disjointed workflow. I want my DAW's sequencer/note editor to be the sequencer/editor I work in.

My adaption has mostly been to push the arrangement step further back in my process so that I won't have to redo so much if I make larger changes. If I still do, it's just lots of manual copy/paste. Boring, but workable.

[BONES]

From what you've said, I think you need to find something much more basic, not something more complicated. I have no idea what that might be these days but something like Synapse's Orion was the prefect thing for getting stuff done with the fewest distractions. Moving from Fruity to Bitwig is only going to swap one lot of distractions for another.

[HOTF]

From what you've said, I think you need to find something much more basic, not something more complicated. I have no idea what that might be these days but something like Synapse's Orion was the prefect thing for getting stuff done with the fewest distractions. Moving from Fruity to Bitwig is only going to swap one lot of distractions for another.

If he wanted fewer distractions he wouldn't bother using multiple DAWs. If you know FL better than others just stick with it and bother having a secondary DAW.

[lfm]

MultitrackStudio maybe
https://www.multitrackstudio.com/index.php?images
- there is a free edition as well

I looked at it many years ago, but developer seems keen and has ARA 2 support as well as CLAP plugin support.
- that should count for something

[Brittlestem]

One thing you may find missing in Bitwig or Live coming from FL is their lack of a pattern system (or shared copies/linked/alias/ghost clips). It took me a while to adapt my arranging workflow to work around it, and to be honest I still miss the feature. It just saves a lot of boring busywork if you make mostly loop-based music.

I still use Ableton occasionally but yes, the lack of ghost clips in the arrangement is what keeps me using, of all things, Pro Tools.

[qtheerearranger]

One thing you may find missing in Bitwig or Live coming from FL is their lack of a pattern system (or shared copies/linked/alias/ghost clips). It took me a while to adapt my arranging workflow to work around it, and to be honest I still miss the feature. It just saves a lot of boring busywork if you make mostly loop-based music.

I still use Ableton occasionally but yes, the lack of ghost clips in the arrangement is what keeps me using, of all things, Pro Tools.

so i dont know if you saw - about 6 months ago they wrote something in which they were like we know this is cliche but.. we promise to start delivering on the midi side of things.... the last 3 or so updates have been sprinkled with midi tools. i wouldnt be surprised of ghost notes and scale editor/editing (hopefully like s1 where u can add notes to scale or take some out) just thought i would throw that out there if you like pro tools its probably something to keep an eye on - a lot of people i know use pro tools and are hyped about the midi stuff theyve been getting.

daw wars are as real as they have ever been.. (in my head)

[EnGee]

I don’t use ghost or cloned clips. I just use copy and paste to make individual clips. It’s not that hard and I’m not doing it all the time. I like also to make every clip unique as much as possible, even though the clips might have the same notes (the drums included). So, I guess for me and some others it’s not an essential feature.

[BONES]

If he wanted fewer distractions he wouldn't bother using multiple DAWs. If you know FL better than others just stick with it and bother having a secondary DAW.

Read his original post - he has lots of unfinished projects, which sounds to me like he wants to change hosts to get things done. That's not going to happen with a different host that he needs to learn from scratch. As I said, he'll just be swapping one set of problems for a different set of problems.

Of course, now that Studio One 7 includes a clip launcher, and as he already knows Studio One, that might be a better choice than either Live or Bitwig.

[xbitz]

It could also be a point to consider that Bitwig reads the .flp FLS format and writes .dawproject, so it’s somewhat possible (or will be possible) to move projects between Bitwig, Studio One, Reaper, and Cubase.

https://www.bitwig.com/support/technica ... ts-flp-41/

[Bartone]

One thing you may find missing in Bitwig or Live coming from FL is their lack of a pattern system (or shared copies/linked/alias/ghost clips). It took me a while to adapt my arranging workflow to work around it, and to be honest I still miss the feature. It just saves a lot of boring busywork if you make mostly loop-based music.

If I remember correctly, Studio1 has ghost clips.
Or it is an option you can choose if you like to use ghost clips.

[BONES]

Studio One will display MIDI data from multiple tracks, depending on which clips you have selected. It's not strictly ghost notes, because you can edit notes from any or all of them.