“More music is being released today (in a single day) than was released in the calendar year of 1989”
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- KVRian
- 1030 posts since 15 Feb, 2005
Music had a one night stand with sound design.....And the condom broke
- addled muppet weed
- 111278 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
bloody lazy back then weren't they.
- KVRAF
- 14138 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
Lots of Milli Vanilli songs on that 89 chart. What does that mean?
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- KVRist
- 96 posts since 18 Feb, 2023
They hadn't invented autotune, so they had to get actual singers to do the work for the pretty stars in the videos.osiris wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 6:13 pm Lots of Milli Vanilli songs on that 89 chart. What does that mean?
- KVRAF
- 14138 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
And Paula Abdul 'sang' over a guide track. Fake as it ever was.
Straight up now tell me you're a cold hearted snake.
Straight up now tell me you're a cold hearted snake.
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- KVRist
- 96 posts since 18 Feb, 2023
- KVRAF
- 12190 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
And yet only a few hundred of them are actively posting on KVR. Lazy bastards...the overall number of music creators was around 75.9 million...
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- KVRAF
- 2236 posts since 25 Dec, 2005
Loads of loads of crap and it is going to be counted, idiots. Don't trust.
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- KVRAF
- 8073 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
So let's say, a bit pessimistically I think, that 99% of all new music releases are crap and 1% is good.
And let's say, very generously, that in 1989, 50% of all those commercial music releases were good (I was there, I know it was way less than that).
So since there's 365 times as much music being released now, for every one good release from 1989, there are at least 7 good releases in 2024.
The difference is, musicians today are mostly not making any money, whereas musicians in 1989 were mostly being exploited by their record companies and not making any money.
And let's say, very generously, that in 1989, 50% of all those commercial music releases were good (I was there, I know it was way less than that).
So since there's 365 times as much music being released now, for every one good release from 1989, there are at least 7 good releases in 2024.
The difference is, musicians today are mostly not making any money, whereas musicians in 1989 were mostly being exploited by their record companies and not making any money.
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- KVRAF
- 6375 posts since 8 Jun, 2009
This is one of those "presented without evidence" things.
Is he calculating the number of releases from the late 1980s internationally? Or using the UK or US catalogues as a proxy? Has he included, for example, the metric tonne of white-label dance 12ins that drove the house and techno revolution?
I don't doubt there's more released today but once you take out the fakes etc and rebalance for global releases in the past, I doubt the gap is as big as it seems.
I'm not sure he's taking into the international nature of releases now compared with then or the amount of spam that makes it onto platforms like Spotify: there's a lot of toxic sludge that's just used for harvesting clicks and plays - there's one "artist" here who is associated with 650 profiles: https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/ ... rm-report/Will Page, who is the former Chief Economist of Spotify and UK performing rights agency, PRS for Music. He told us, “More music is being released today (in a single day) than was released in the calendar year of 1989”.
Is he calculating the number of releases from the late 1980s internationally? Or using the UK or US catalogues as a proxy? Has he included, for example, the metric tonne of white-label dance 12ins that drove the house and techno revolution?
I don't doubt there's more released today but once you take out the fakes etc and rebalance for global releases in the past, I doubt the gap is as big as it seems.
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- KVRAF
- 1715 posts since 27 Apr, 2012
The good thing is that so many people are able to make music now due to the accessibility of tools for recording and music production. The bad thing is that it’s trivially easy to push your first attempt at making breakcore 20s atmospheric jungle onto streaming services, and social media has lead to a culture obsessed with seeking validation from random strangers on the internet, causing people to feel the need to do exactly that.
As a listener this is a mixed blessing. There are tons of people making amazing music in every style you can imagine (and some that you can’t), but you have to fish them out of a sea of mediocrity and downright garbage.
As a listener this is a mixed blessing. There are tons of people making amazing music in every style you can imagine (and some that you can’t), but you have to fish them out of a sea of mediocrity and downright garbage.
The life you have, the life you need, is not the same as the one in your dreams
- KVRAF
- 14138 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
I'm sure Don Henley would have laughed at 0.03 cents per stream. This is a great article from 2019:
https://mashable.com/article/major-musi ... -streaming
//The publication poured through recent investor filings from Universal Music Group’s parent company Vivendi, Sony, and Warner and found that the companies are totaling $19 million in daily streaming revenue.//
// popular cellist and composer Zoe Keating shared that more than 2.25 million streaming plays of her music on Spotify netted only around $12,200. That’s even after a raise from Spotify as Keating’s 2018 payout per play was greater than it was in previous years.//
https://mashable.com/article/major-musi ... -streaming
//The publication poured through recent investor filings from Universal Music Group’s parent company Vivendi, Sony, and Warner and found that the companies are totaling $19 million in daily streaming revenue.//
// popular cellist and composer Zoe Keating shared that more than 2.25 million streaming plays of her music on Spotify netted only around $12,200. That’s even after a raise from Spotify as Keating’s 2018 payout per play was greater than it was in previous years.//