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sprnva wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 8:09 pm I've been dabbling a little with old AKAI S-series sample CDs (there's plenty to be found online in places like archive.org for example). Mainly with a couple of free and open-source tools I recently found: akaiutil and abrowse.

akaiutil can export the entire disc to a tar archive containing the program files and related sample data in either the original format or wav. abrowse will also convert the program files to xml. Though when previewing the extracted samples I noticed an audible click at the end of all the wavs from abrowse. Not sure of the cause.

It got me wondering if you would be interested in adding support for this format (the original programs and samples extracted from the disc)? I assume most or all of what you would need to know about the format will be documented by these two tools. There's also the older akaitools which is still in development.
I did some research on this some time ago and are aware of these tools. Might happen some day but there is a lot of other stuff on my list before that.

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DA RIPPER wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 11:38 pm I notice if I transfer a file to Yamaha format they are pan to the left

Also I got some file to send you to help with your work
Thanks. Will check.

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Ubuntu 24.04: I have been trying to convert from DecentSampler to a view formats (SZ, S2, Bitwig). However with all files I tried the preset contain one or multiple "attribut" errors (it's in german, maybe "attribute"), f.e.

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Could not load file: Attribut "width" wurde bereits für Element "labeled-knob" angegeben.
I looked into dspreset file and the section of the errors contain definition of extra knobs like "Tone", Reverb", "Close Mic", "Chorus".

The samples are from DecentSampler homepage, it's been end of 2022 when I downloaded them, so maybe I missed updates. I tried (all free)

"Tenor Saxophone"
"Chord Organ"
"Little Red Organ"

Any idea what could be the cause of this message (in red)? There is no output generated.

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ReinhardK71 wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:29 am Ubuntu 24.04: I have been trying to convert from DecentSampler to a view formats (SZ, S2, Bitwig). However with all files I tried the preset contain one or multiple "attribut" errors (it's in german, maybe "attribute"), f.e.

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Could not load file: Attribut "width" wurde bereits für Element "labeled-knob" angegeben.
I looked into dspreset file and the section of the errors contain definition of extra knobs like "Tone", Reverb", "Close Mic", "Chorus".

The samples are from DecentSampler homepage, it's been end of 2022 when I downloaded them, so maybe I missed updates. I tried (all free)

"Tenor Saxophone"
"Chord Organ"
"Little Red Organ"

Any idea what could be the cause of this message (in red)? There is no output generated.
I had a look at "Chord Organ". Couldn't find the other 2 files.

The 2 presets contain broken XML code. Such issues appear when you create files manually and don't check them afterwards...

I fixed the 2 preset files for you:
ChordOrgan.zip
In case you are not aware: the dslibrary is just a ZIP file. Open it with any ZIP application and replace the 2 dspreset files.
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moss wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 9:46 am
I had a look at "Chord Organ". Couldn't find the other 2 files.

The 2 presets contain broken XML code. Such issues appear when you create files manually and don't check them afterwards...

I fixed the 2 preset files for you:
ChordOrgan.zip

In case you are not aware: the dslibrary is just a ZIP file. Open it with any ZIP application and replace the 2 dspreset files.
Ah, now I didn't know about that archive. Thank you for your effort. I can then fix myself the others (fingers crossed), should there be no updates. I also will links in my previous post so those who are interested can check out these sample(r)s when I am allowed to. (The Little Red Organ and Tenor Saxophone are from Pianobooks while only Chord Organ is from DecentSamples)

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moss wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 6:06 pm
papuci23 wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 6:44 am Hi Jurgen,

Regarding the X-fade value for the Sample Robot to MPC keygroup, this is what i was talking about on youtube: 

Screenshot 2024-11-17 082830.png

You can see the parameter marked in the image with red, it has a value.

Screenshot 2024-11-17 083741.png

In MPC the value is 0.

What do you think? Or maybe the value gets lost on the way in the Bitwig file format. Because exporting in bitwig format is the middle step.

Thanks!
Thanks for the report! Turns out the conversion of the value between Bitwig and MPC was not implemented. Will be fixed in the next update!
Maybe the problem goes deeper, i tried to see in Bitwig if i the x value gets translated from SampleRobot and guess what, the samples dont get any crossfade whatsoever, maybe the problem is not with your app but with Samplerobot.

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ConvertWithMoss 11.3.0 is online!

Get it from https://mossgrabers.de
  • Ableton ADV
    • Fixed: Date of last sample change was in milli-seconds but needs to be seconds. Ableton 12 refused to load the file.
  • EXS24
    • Fixed: Reading failed due to a not-removed log-output.
  • MPC Keygroups
    • Fixed: The loop crossfade was not converted correctly in both directions.
  • Sample Files
    • New: Implemented workaround for reading broken WAV files which have the wave data after the data chunk.
    • Fixed: Sample detection stopped already when no files were found for one sample format.
    • Fixed: Do not stop detection when no common name could be found among the input samples but use the name of the first sample.
Enjoy!

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ConvertWithMoss 11.4.0 is online!

Get it from https://mossgrabers.de
  • Decent Sampler
    • New: Added support for dspresets using AIFF files.
    • New: Added option to (not) log unused XML elements and attributes. This is off by default since the warnings confused many users.
    • New: Tweaked envelope times a bit.
    • New: Removed groups which are disabled (since there is no way to translate the modulated activation to other formats).
    • New: Filters on group level are now read as well.
    • New: Improved mapping of round-robin
    • Fixed: Added support for note numbers with a prefixed 0 (e.g. '060').
    • Fixed: Global filter was not read.
  • EXS24
    • New: Removed excessive logging when searching for a sample.
    • Fixed: Data chunk offset was mostly not correctly written to EXS.
  • Sample Files
    • New: Implemented workaround for reading WAV files with a non-standard chunk at the end.
  • Sf2
    • New: Added option to (not) log unused SF2 generators. This is off by default since the warnings confused many users.
Enjoy!
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thanks :phones:

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Hi,
first of all thank you very much for your hard work Mr Jurgen!
Can i ask you if the .gig ( Gigasampler ) format will be added?

Best Regads!

xp98

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xp98 wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 11:28 pm Hi,
first of all thank you very much for your hard work Mr Jurgen!
Can i ask you if the .gig ( Gigasampler ) format will be added?

Best Regads!

xp98
I have currently no plans for it.

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ConvertWithMoss 11.5.0 is online!

Get it from https://mossgrabers.de
  • Added support for Waldorf Quantum MkI/MkII, Iridium, Iridium Core sample format.
  • Checking if destination folder is empty ignores now OS thumbnail files like .DS_Store on MAC and Thumbs.db on Windows.
  • Decent Sampler
    • New: Added logging of line/column numbers with the error if the dspreset file cannot be parsed.
  • EXS24
    • Fixed: Parameters were not correctly read/written. Already created files should be created again.


Enjoy!

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Thank you! :)
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Conversion to EXS is now working. This is brilliant!

I've been away for a few weeks so I can't tell if it was 11.4 or 11.5 that finally worked for Logic Sampler. Will test some more files but for now I just want to say a big thank you to Jürgen for this incredible tool.

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Hi
I'm trying to install the .deb converter on AVL 21.3 (based on mxlinux and debian 11)
I'm getting the error
dpkg-deb: error: archive 'convertwithmoss_11.5.0_amd64.deb' uses unknown compression for member 'control.tar.zst', giving up
Can you tell me how to solve this problem
Many thanks

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