Can you explain briefly why closed ones down the flatness? also, before you said "half" open ones, all of the open headphones are "half" opened or you clarifyed that for a specific reason? and last, Im kinda confuse when I read "high atenuation of circundant noise" in the descripcion of some models, that means they are open or half open? are such thing as a completelly closed/open headphones that fully cancel/allow the circundant noise?BertKoor wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 7:41 am I only use wired earbuds. Duuuhhh...
Closed headphones provide isolation, but as mentioned before these are better for recording than for mixing. The closed cup is acoustically a disadvantage and usually sounds less flat.
Not knowing is all the more an argument to get out and try some out.
What Headphones Shoul I buy?
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 9 posts since 13 Mar, 2020
- KVRAF
- 1665 posts since 22 Oct, 2004 from Schmocation
Other suggestions: Røde NTH-100, closed back, comfy (for me), good allrounder at half your max budget. Austria Audio have a range of comfy, quality headphones in different price ranges, including an (expensive) open-back model. You may want to get a closed back first if you do tracking or are in an enviroment where you might disturb others or other sound may disturb you. If not, open back will normally be better for mixing. Neumann have recently released a model than, as expected from that brand, gets very good reviews. Almost double your budget, though. Check out reviews and and forum posts over at Sound on Sound for more info.
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- KVRist
- 224 posts since 23 Feb, 2013
As others have mentioned above, it's really important to listen to music/sound a lot on whichever headphones you choose in the end. The so-called headphones burn-in time is mostly the burn-in time of your brain, meaning that whatever the frequency curve of the headphones is, with time, in about two weeks of daily use, they will start sounding normal or 'balanced' to you as you get used to the profile. And then, of course, if you are used to a specific pair and its sound signature, when you put a different one on the relative differences will be pronounced. So, check the reviews so that there are no major technical issues with the pair you are looking to buy, and try on a few different ones in the store, then go by feel (imo).
I use headphones 99% of the time for producing and listening to music, and last year I did a lot of research to upgrade my pair (previously used ath m50, ended up on austrian audio hi-x60). This is a pretty good website/blog with numerous tests/reviews: https://diyaudioheaven.wordpress.com/
Anyway, I recommend you check out the Austrian Audio Hi-x60 or maybe the hi-x65 (which are open), or the Beyerdynamic dt900 pro x. Also, Andrew Scheps can mix on Sony mdr-7506, and I've generally heard good things about them, but haven't tested them out myself.
I use headphones 99% of the time for producing and listening to music, and last year I did a lot of research to upgrade my pair (previously used ath m50, ended up on austrian audio hi-x60). This is a pretty good website/blog with numerous tests/reviews: https://diyaudioheaven.wordpress.com/
Anyway, I recommend you check out the Austrian Audio Hi-x60 or maybe the hi-x65 (which are open), or the Beyerdynamic dt900 pro x. Also, Andrew Scheps can mix on Sony mdr-7506, and I've generally heard good things about them, but haven't tested them out myself.
- KVRAF
- 16800 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
Sorry, I don't know what 'circundant' means. Never heard that term before.
Regarding open/closed nature, these articles are a good primer on the subject:
https://headphones.com/pages/open-vs-closed-headphones
https://www.whathifi.com/advice/closed- ... st-for-you
Regarding open/closed nature, these articles are a good primer on the subject:
https://headphones.com/pages/open-vs-closed-headphones
https://www.whathifi.com/advice/closed- ... st-for-you
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I don't even think circundant is a real word
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Scheps lol what an overrated little waves sellout.
But yes the Sony 7506 are very nice, a bit of a stepup from m50x. Still we are in the very cheap range where only a few works.
Would be better to talk about the more mid rangey area. Most people at home I think wants to spend at least 200 for a decent set of cans.
I can only recommend the srh940 in this range myself. Very nice sound for a cheap closed back.
But yes the Sony 7506 are very nice, a bit of a stepup from m50x. Still we are in the very cheap range where only a few works.
Would be better to talk about the more mid rangey area. Most people at home I think wants to spend at least 200 for a decent set of cans.
I can only recommend the srh940 in this range myself. Very nice sound for a cheap closed back.
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Oh I love Australian clams confit. They go hard indeet
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- KVRist
- 224 posts since 23 Feb, 2013
Agree that they are tight on the head, and clamp harder than ath m50, but also have an incredible passive isolation of outside noise. Also, this is why I recommended to try them out in store, same goes for the fit of any other pair.
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- KVRian
- 1365 posts since 2 Mar, 2018
Someone gets it, thank you. Headphones, like most any gear, is subjective.yoursoul wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 2:04 pm i am selling my dt-770 atm... they are definitely not comfy for me, but as this is highly subjective,
OP, check the links BertKoor listed above and really you would help yourself a lot and save a lot of time by doing some research on headphones in general vs relying on a "tell me what headphones to buy" thread. Everyone has their favs anyway that they'll recommend and there's no way to know which suggestion is right for you, if any.
I would suggest, since you're going to use them for both recording and mixing, that you get one pair for each: a closed-back pair for recording, and an open or semi-open pair for mixing. And yes, you can buy quality headphones one each within your budget. If you are determined to get one, make it closed back, because you really can't record with ones that aren't, and overall you can get better bang for your buck with closed back anyway. But two sets is IMO optimal.
I do think it makes sense to try and get the most "flat" headphones possible so it more accurately reflects how your music actually sounds, but don't get too wrapped up in it because as far as I know, no headphones are totally, truly flat (although some more than others, for ex. the AT50s are notorious for having a hyped low end). And folks make a good point about buying some that are comfortable, but - as with the sound - you aren't really going to know how good or not they are until you've used them awhile. You might get somewhat of an idea of ones to avoid from trying them on at a store (and PS good luck finding such a store unless you live near a large city).
- KVRAF
- 1665 posts since 22 Oct, 2004 from Schmocation
Fit obviously depends on your head shape, ear shape etc. Which is one reason one might find practically brand new, perfectly fine headphones second hand.
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- KVRer
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- 9 posts since 13 Mar, 2020
The advices and specially this two link really cleared out my mind, thanks to all you guys.BertKoor wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:16 pm Sorry, I don't know what 'circundant' means. Never heard that term before.
Regarding open/closed nature, these articles are a good primer on the subject:
https://headphones.com/pages/open-vs-closed-headphones
https://www.whathifi.com/advice/closed- ... st-for-you
I know I will get the real insight by my own experience, but Im not really intersted in inventing the wheel again, so you really save a lot of time AND money.
I opted for the Akg K702, what do you guys think? Since right now Im only on the mix/equalization and not into recording anything yet, this full open cans minimize the distortion and have a good fidelity.
Also, AKG is one of the brands I saw the most among the coments.
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- KVRer
- 9 posts since 22 Nov, 2024
krk kns 8400 I settled on after quite a bit research, they're studio monitoring which means they should give you the true sound of whatever you're listening to. Replacement pads are online. They hold up well, I didn't want this kind that folds for flat storage but I got used to them. The fit isn't so great but not bad.