can someone clear this up for me....
I see many references to layering sounds in SS2, but I was under the impression that SS2 uses basically the same gui as ST2.
I have ST2 and I don't see a way to layer sounds on it...am I missing something?
do I miss out on some of the features if I use the SS2 sounds inside of ST2?
SS2 layering
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- KVRAF
- 4692 posts since 28 Jan, 2003 from In these very interwebs
Each part responds to a MIDI channel.
You can change which MIDI channel each part responds to.
Do this by clicking on the MIDI channel number and dragging.
Layer sounds by loading different sounds into several parts, and set all those parts to respond to the same MIDI channel.
Hope that helps.
Forever,
Kim.
You can change which MIDI channel each part responds to.
Do this by clicking on the MIDI channel number and dragging.
Layer sounds by loading different sounds into several parts, and set all those parts to respond to the same MIDI channel.
Hope that helps.Forever,
Kim.
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- KVRian
- 711 posts since 16 Mar, 2002 from Mostly in planes and hotels. Terra Firma: Seattle, WA
And you can layer sounds in ST2 as well. The difference is that SS2 contains a lot of sound shaping elements designed to be part of layers.
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- KVRian
- 830 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Richland Center, Wisconsin
Yeah, basically, a layer is a combination with more than one sound set to the same midi channel. From what I understand, Combinations you save in SS2 will also work in ST 2 XL.
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- KVRist
- 130 posts since 19 Jul, 2004 from Tokyo
Let me say, I began my SS2 "experience" by ONLY using the sounds in ST2 -- I did NOT install the SS2 gui/engine at all, and just pulled up the sounds in ST2. I was thinking, "I don't want to install *ANOTHER* VSTi if the sounds work in ST2 fine"...
BUT....
If you do that, realize that you will not have all the combi's installed (I don't think). You ONLY get the "presets", of which the combi's are made. The combi's are ONLY installed when you install the SS2 engine/gui.
Again: I may have misunderstood something, but from MY experience, you MUST install the SS2 program in order to get all those Combi's which are pre-made by sonic reality... (someone correct me if i'm wrong, please!)
Anyway... Once I did that, then i realized, "HEY, it makes a LOT of sense to just have that loaded anyway!" -- and I'm glad i figured it out, because there are some VERY cool combi's in there, too...
So my advice is, go ahead and install the SS2 program -- you'll end up using it. Then the sounds can STILL be used in ST2 if you want...
BUT....
If you do that, realize that you will not have all the combi's installed (I don't think). You ONLY get the "presets", of which the combi's are made. The combi's are ONLY installed when you install the SS2 engine/gui.
Again: I may have misunderstood something, but from MY experience, you MUST install the SS2 program in order to get all those Combi's which are pre-made by sonic reality... (someone correct me if i'm wrong, please!)
Anyway... Once I did that, then i realized, "HEY, it makes a LOT of sense to just have that loaded anyway!" -- and I'm glad i figured it out, because there are some VERY cool combi's in there, too...
So my advice is, go ahead and install the SS2 program -- you'll end up using it. Then the sounds can STILL be used in ST2 if you want...
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- KVRAF
- 4692 posts since 28 Jan, 2003 from In these very interwebs
The SS2 plugin has other benefits too. Two that I can think of are:
1) It looks different to SampleTank2. You might find it more inspiring, or maybe use it to differentiate between different types of sounds (synth sounds in SS2, drum samples, etc in ST2) perhaps.
2) The left-hand display (where it shows what instruments you have loaded) has larger text than ST2. This could be handy for people with less-than perfect vision, or displays with very high resolution. Of course, the downside is that it can't show more than 8 parts at a time, but maybe it's not that big a deal.
Forever,
Kim.
1) It looks different to SampleTank2. You might find it more inspiring, or maybe use it to differentiate between different types of sounds (synth sounds in SS2, drum samples, etc in ST2) perhaps.
2) The left-hand display (where it shows what instruments you have loaded) has larger text than ST2. This could be handy for people with less-than perfect vision, or displays with very high resolution. Of course, the downside is that it can't show more than 8 parts at a time, but maybe it's not that big a deal.
Forever,
Kim.
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- KVRian
- 1302 posts since 9 Oct, 2003 from California
All you have to do is to copy the combi patches from SS2 into the SampleTank 2 Preset folder and they will show up and work in SampleTank 2 just fine. I have only installed SampleTank 2 and reference all the sounds/presets/combi's of ST2 and SS2 without having installed SS2.TokyoTain wrote: Again: I may have misunderstood something, but from MY experience, you MUST install the SS2 program in order to get all those Combi's which are pre-made by sonic reality... (someone correct me if i'm wrong, please!)
Of course you can install both but I have no need to have 2 instances running at the same time. Plus, I like my full library accessible all at the same time and place.
Dan
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- KVRist
- 130 posts since 19 Jul, 2004 from Tokyo
DAN/dgkenney:
How did you do that? I mean, I was looking all OVER the place for those files (the .ikmp files), but I couldn't find them on the sound data discs (the DVDs).
In fact, it wasn't until I installed the SS2 program (ran the .exe from the CD, I mean) that I could find the installed folders with those combi patches inside (e.g. -- /program files/SS2/SS2 presets/*.ikmp )...
Did i just miss something obvious?!? Or what?
How did you do that? I mean, I was looking all OVER the place for those files (the .ikmp files), but I couldn't find them on the sound data discs (the DVDs).
In fact, it wasn't until I installed the SS2 program (ran the .exe from the CD, I mean) that I could find the installed folders with those combi patches inside (e.g. -- /program files/SS2/SS2 presets/*.ikmp )...
Did i just miss something obvious?!? Or what?
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- KVRian
- 1302 posts since 9 Oct, 2003 from California
Nope! My bad.TokyoTain wrote: Did i just miss something obvious?!? Or what?
I think I got confused because I installed the Combi Drum Kits at the same time as SS2. Those combis are within accessible folders. You are right, you have to install SS2 to access the SS2 combis.
That said, I did however copy the SS2 combis into ST2 so that I can access everything from the ST2 interface. (Of course the sounds have to be available also) I have not had the need to run two instances of either and so it makes sense to me, for my workflow, to have a single interface and save the cpu/ram.
Sorry for the confusion.
Dan