Massive X or Twin 3

[SeeingInMidi]

MX still has the best built-in filters and effects out any synth i've ever used. Patiently waiting for the big update..

[ChanceB]

If you just sold Twin a week ago and always missed Massive X the choice should be clear. Personally I would choose Massive X,I like Twin 3 a lot and have it on My computer and IPad,really cool to design sounds on the go and use them on the computer,and I really like the way the filters are visualized too. Massive X sounds better and can make a way wider range of sounds with wavetables,warps,FM etc

[Jac459]

Plus, twin 4 will arrive, no doubt. Massive X, I really don't think it will have a sequel. Or at least not a good one.

How will you download Twin 4 on a desert island? The wifi is probably spotty at best.

Excellent point ha ha, stupid me.

[Alexander_D]

twin 3's ok, but it's such an outlier for fabfilter. i love their eqs, comps... the R2 reverb. but twin 3 is just ok. massive x, on the other hand is amazing; there's no contest.

R2 reverb is below average to my ears - especially for the cost, and Massive X needs another redesign to be competitive (the sound isn’t the issue). Just depends on what the goals are, sonically, between the synths and then which interface you can best withstand.

R2 is really nice and warm reverb. And it's a musical. For me it's an important thing...
And what the reverb that you are thinking is a high quality? Just interesting

[vitocorleone123]

twin 3's ok, but it's such an outlier for fabfilter. i love their eqs, comps... the R2 reverb. but twin 3 is just ok. massive x, on the other hand is amazing; there's no contest.

R2 reverb is below average to my ears - especially for the cost, and Massive X needs another redesign to be competitive (the sound isn’t the issue). Just depends on what the goals are, sonically, between the synths and then which interface you can best withstand.

R2 is really nice and warm reverb. And it's a musical. For me it's an important thing...
And what the reverb that you are thinking is a high quality? Just interesting

R2 is pretty cold and metallic to me (again, reverb is subjective and my ears are definitely not the same as yours and I'm not saying I'm "right" and you're "wrong").

My favorite reverb of all time, and I've tried most plugins out there I feel, at least within the last 5 years, is Cinematic Rooms Pro. I also really enjoy my Mercury X pedal, which is my close second favorite. The UAD 224 is excellent as well.

I was excited when R1 came out, only to try it and strongly dislike it. Same for R2, though it's better and I don't dislike it I didn't particularly like it, either.

Massive X: I tried it when it came out and hated using it and never went back. Also, I also won't pay for anything (except Kontakt that I need/use regularly) from Francisco Partners.

[Alexander_D]

twin 3's ok, but it's such an outlier for fabfilter. i love their eqs, comps... the R2 reverb. but twin 3 is just ok. massive x, on the other hand is amazing; there's no contest.

R2 reverb is below average to my ears - especially for the cost, and Massive X needs another redesign to be competitive (the sound isn’t the issue). Just depends on what the goals are, sonically, between the synths and then which interface you can best withstand.

R2 is really nice and warm reverb. And it's a musical. For me it's an important thing...
And what the reverb that you are thinking is a high quality? Just interesting

R2 is pretty cold and metallic to me (again, reverb is subjective and my ears are definitely not the same as yours and I'm not saying I'm "right" and you're "wrong").

My favorite reverb of all time, and I've tried most plugins out there I feel, at least within the last 5 years, is Cinematic Rooms Pro. I also really enjoy my Mercury X pedal, which is my close second favorite. The UAD 224 is excellent as well.

I was excited when R1 came out, only to try it and strongly dislike it. Same for R2, though it's better and I don't dislike it I didn't particularly like it, either.

Massive X: I tried it when it came out and hated using it and never went back. Also, I also won't pay for anything (except Kontakt that I need/use regularly) from Francisco Partners.

was tested Cinematic Rooms. It's a really nice reverb. But honestly I don't think that 400 USD is a good price for this reverb. Just IMHO of course... I am waiting the sale for this one... don't know, does they do the sales for their stuff...
Valhalla is a king regarding price/quality...

[Alexander_D]

twin 3's ok, but it's such an outlier for fabfilter. i love their eqs, comps... the R2 reverb. but twin 3 is just ok. massive x, on the other hand is amazing; there's no contest.

R2 reverb is below average to my ears - especially for the cost, and Massive X needs another redesign to be competitive (the sound isn’t the issue). Just depends on what the goals are, sonically, between the synths and then which interface you can best withstand.

R2 is really nice and warm reverb. And it's a musical. For me it's an important thing...
And what the reverb that you are thinking is a high quality? Just interesting

R2 is pretty cold and metallic to me (again, reverb is subjective and my ears are definitely not the same as yours and I'm not saying I'm "right" and you're "wrong").

My favorite reverb of all time, and I've tried most plugins out there I feel, at least within the last 5 years, is Cinematic Rooms Pro. I also really enjoy my Mercury X pedal, which is my close second favorite. The UAD 224 is excellent as well.

I was excited when R1 came out, only to try it and strongly dislike it. Same for R2, though it's better and I don't dislike it I didn't particularly like it, either.

Massive X: I tried it when it came out and hated using it and never went back. Also, I also won't pay for anything (except Kontakt that I need/use regularly) from Francisco Partners.

I was tested Cinematic Rooms. It's a really nice reverb. But honestly I don't think that 400 USD is a good price for this reverb. Just IMHO of course... I am waiting the sale for this one... don't know, does they do the sales for their stuff...
Valhalla is a king regarding price/quality...

[pdxindy]

As a desert island synth, I wouldn't pick MX. It has too many weak points and too many things it doesn't do. For me, it is not an all around synth.

Lots of people seem to think it sounds great. To my ears, it is very good, but can be a bit sterile and would not be my first choice for analog type sounds. The infrastructure around the basic DSP is abysmal.

Twin 3 sounds good in audio demos, but I've never used it. In terms of being future proof, I consider Fabfilter a more reliable company.

[Ah_Dziz]

I doubt I'd pick either for a "desert island synth". There's lots more out there that covers the same ground of both without the limitations of either Twin or Massive X. I assume the question was asked due to both being cheap rather than either being irreplaceable.

[vitocorleone123]

I doubt I'd pick either for a "desert island synth". There's lots more out there that covers the same ground of both without the limitations of either Twin or Massive X. I assume the question was asked due to both being cheap rather than either being irreplaceable.

At the moment, there's nothing that replaces Twin3 for me. So, yes, some may find one (or the other) irreplaceable.

[twal]

Then it comes down to choice...

[DashOfLime]

Twin 3. Easy to use, low on CPU and sounds great.

Massive X sounds amazing, possibilities are awesome, but GUI is sluggish and really uninviting to use.

I have them both and i prefer to use Twin 3

Or better yet Vital - free and sounds great
OsTirus - if you have a rom also free and sounds amazing

Vital has basically been abandoned. Surge XT sounds great too, is FOSS, and doesn't have that problem.

[vitocorleone123]

twin 3's ok, but it's such an outlier for fabfilter. i love their eqs, comps... the R2 reverb. but twin 3 is just ok. massive x, on the other hand is amazing; there's no contest.

R2 reverb is below average to my ears - especially for the cost, and Massive X needs another redesign to be competitive (the sound isn’t the issue). Just depends on what the goals are, sonically, between the synths and then which interface you can best withstand.

R2 is really nice and warm reverb. And it's a musical. For me it's an important thing...
And what the reverb that you are thinking is a high quality? Just interesting

R2 is pretty cold and metallic to me (again, reverb is subjective and my ears are definitely not the same as yours and I'm not saying I'm "right" and you're "wrong").

My favorite reverb of all time, and I've tried most plugins out there I feel, at least within the last 5 years, is Cinematic Rooms Pro. I also really enjoy my Mercury X pedal, which is my close second favorite. The UAD 224 is excellent as well.

I was excited when R1 came out, only to try it and strongly dislike it. Same for R2, though it's better and I don't dislike it I didn't particularly like it, either.

Massive X: I tried it when it came out and hated using it and never went back. Also, I also won't pay for anything (except Kontakt that I need/use regularly) from Francisco Partners.

was tested Cinematic Rooms. It's a really nice reverb. But honestly I don't think that 400 USD is a good price for this reverb. Just IMHO of course... I am waiting the sale for this one... don't know, does they do the sales for their stuff...
Valhalla is a king regarding price/quality...

I think I paid $170 or so for CRP based on having most of the other reverbs + BF sale. That said, I'd easily have paid $400 for CRP and saved money on all the other reverbs from various companies over the years - most of which are barely comparable to me now - and felt I was getting a bargain. I spent years trying to find the right reverb and finally did. I could've saved more than I spent if I'd known (oddly enough, it was Hans Zimmer recommending it to me in a reply on VI-C that got me to finally try it, because even $170 on a reverb was a lot of money). For me, $400 would've been a deal. I was tired of all the disappointing reverbs and was on a quest to find one that I actually loved, no matter the cost.

When you've been unhappy with a majority of tools, which can include synths, for years, and have spent a lot of time and money searching for one or ones that work best, when you find it, it's worth the savings and the investment.

Out of dozens of synth emulations, unless I know in advance that I want a specific emulation sound, then I reach for Twin3 now when I want "analog" but don't want to power on the ol' hardware synths - or am looking for something to go with them. I do think the MX filters may be better sounding, and the filter in the UAD synth is quite excellent, but, overall, the virtual oscillator tone of Twin3 is impressive for software. It's kinda fun, too, to have this ultra-modern UI and a very vintage-like sound.

[idoru97214]

Massive X. Been out for years and has not left my top 5 ever since then. I agree it's not the greatest as analog replacement necessarily, but that's not an issue for me since I rarely like analog sound for anything but bass - like truly low, smooth bass. I am unashamedly digital and MX is just great. (Current, Kult, Myth, Serum also). I sold Phaseplant. Twice. I think I should love it but I can't seem to. It has no low end.

Best super synth right now - Current

[martiu]

get Ana 2 instead