KVR Audio

CypherOne · Post by **CypherOne** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 8:23 am

Hello,

This is probably really simple and I've missed something obvious.

Is there an easy way to filter a delay, so that only the delay (taps) are filtered, either up or down.

If the only way to do this is to 'chain' a delay and a filter, which way round should they go?

Answers on a postcard....

Cheers

ouroboros · Post by **ouroboros** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 8:39 am

I suppose it depends on the host. What do you use?

CypherOne · Post by **CypherOne** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 8:42 am

Cubarse.

smart · Post by **smart** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 8:44 am

I use FL for this but I'm sure cubase can to - put a delay on a send, and then stick a filter after it. send whatever you want to the send and then automate the filter a bit for some cool results.

ouroboros · Post by **ouroboros** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 8:45 am

sorry, no idea

I use FL like smart said.

TheWall · Post by **TheWall** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 8:47 am

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 8:53 am

I'm no help, but just to clarify what I THINK he's looking for so that more help can come along--

He wants the original signal to be completely 'pure' (ie. no filtering) and then when the delay taps kick in, he wants THEM to be swept with a filter.

I have a hard time thinking of how to work in Cubase because I don't have it and haven't really used it. But I'm imagining:

-Duplicate the track that you want filtered delays on. Put your delay on this track with 0% dry and 100% wet. That would mean that NONE of your original signal would be in there. Then sweep and filter to your heart's content.

No?

I'm sure there's something about Cubase that would require a different step in there somewhere, but that's the general idea.

smart · Post by **smart** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 8:58 am

can't you do what I said in Cubase?

CypherOne · Post by **CypherOne** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:00 am

smart wrote:can't you do what I said in Cubase?

yes you can I think. I've only had it since Christmas but will try that later, thanks!

AD80 · Post by **AD80** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:01 am

Why not just use a delay with a built in filter, and automate that? That seems like the easiest way.

You could also wire it up really quickly in a Tracktion Rackfilter but I'm sure you dont want to do that.

CypherOne · Post by **CypherOne** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:02 am

you're right. TBH I don't have anything against tracktion apart from all of the bloody threads about T2....

Can you recommend any such delays?

deep · Post by **deep** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:03 am

In Logic I just insert a delay on an auxillary channel, then set the output of that channel to go to another auxillary track with a filter/eq on it. Then use a bus send from that aux back to the delay channel. This creates a kind of feedback loop.

If your delay is set to 0% feedback then basically every time a sound gets sent to the delay, the output is then filtered, sent back to the delay, filtered again...and so on...All depending on how much your sends are turned up.

You can get great results experimenting with all kinds of plugins after the delay channel

But I have no idea how to do this in cubase (or even if it's possible?)

smart · Post by **smart** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:13 am

for free I think that Retro Delay does this.

http://www.e-phonic.com/

Nev · Post by **Nev** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:14 am

CypherOne wrote: you're right. TBH I don't have anything against tracktion apart from all of the bloody threads about T2....

Can you recommend any such delays?

The Ultrafunk Sonitus delay (Sonar) has a filter built in, and a lovely bpm sync button too.

Nev

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:28 am

The easiest way would be to do the allready mentioned bus method (in Cuabse: FX channel).
Set the delay to one insert and have the filter follow.

IMO the most flexible method too.

Yes, there's delays with build in filters, such as the Klanglabs one and the mentioned Retro Delay - but personally in such a case I prefer to mix things.

Btw, Kjaerhus' new free AutoFilter is KICKASS for such purposes. Their delay as well, btw.
Both are temposyncable, so set them both to different sync values and get all mad!

Changing the effect chain for such purposes can be a great idea too.

Filtered Delays?