Kazrog Mhb green

[Anonatron]

Hi. Has anyone tried this. It's awesome. Beautiful saturation and compression. My new favourite

[Funky40]

Works great for me ! Thats vs. E-Piano playing, Synths, Piano.
In short: Love it, will replace the Kush TWK for me (which i love).



Tl;dr:
TWK Kush was so far still my prefered saturator vs. what i´m doing.
But it has a 4ms Latency.
The MHB Green has iirc a 0.4ms Latency.
I can dial in the -for me- same sound as with the Kush TWK.
Easy. Feels same to me. Same good.
( This is not just vs. static settings. It´s about jamming on EPiano )

But, you can take the MHB Green way more into the extremes !....waaay more ! It´s screaming !
i guess thats where the name "Green" comes from ?...or from "grin" ? ....who knows. ( i take both ) And: it has a Dry-Wet control.

I like the latter vs. driving it into extreme settings, yet dial in the D-W control some nice bits back. I set up morph controls for this.(one knob controls)
Also, it has in and out gain settings, as has the TWK.
So, i can create morphs which would control: outgain, saturation ( as with TWK), .....but now also: D-W on top of it. Which really made the scream settings shine.
=> Let it scream, but don´t let it ruin the sound in the whole, otherwise.

So yes, i would guess the MHB Green will become my new go to Saturation-Overdrive standard unit. That was mostly for EP playing so far.

With the MHB Green on EP, when hard driven, the reminiscence to the sound of a real Synth is.....well, it was fascinating.

I like to notes, with such morph controls in place, manually jamming along as if you would do with a footpedal while guitar playing, things become dynamic. The sound will change. There is a certain "dynamic behave" that comes into play now as well. Everything starts to become alive. The MHB Green is just fantastic for this ! Love it

The timbres with EP (Rhodes), the reminiscense to real synth sounds, was for me really stunning. That with EP ?.....i was allready in the camp of those who prefer a driven EP over a real synth for many things. But now ? Wow.


check it out yourself.
If you love the Kush TWK, you´ll love this one too !....but now with enhanced controls, less latency,...and: can scream, haha.


i host plugins mostly in GigPerformer. There, i can create such morphs ( not just makros, but "real morphs")

[martiu]

it is my favorite color compressor, amazing stuff

[billinder33]

Going with Acustica naming conventions.... Tsk tsk

[bmanic]

It's good.. but it is _very_ colored, both in terms of amount of saturation it creates and the amount of EQ changes it does (like +/- 6dB of things all over the place). So if you can tolerate those changes (or compensate for them) then yes, I can very much recommend it.

[Anonatron]

I find the saturation quite mild until it's over half way, then it can get very tubey. I think the interface needs work also

[Igelhaft]

Going with Acustica naming conventions.... Tsk tsk

Whaddyamean? It's not named Verdentclovermeadow or whatever, is it?

[multree]

It's good.. but it is _very_ colored, both in terms of amount of saturation it creates and the amount of EQ changes it does (like +/- 6dB of things all over the place). So if you can tolerate those changes (or compensate for them) then yes, I can very much recommend it.

It can do very clean/neutral as well.

Turn down the two big knobs on the bottom left: decibels and level and use the hidden output knob as makeup gain. Also turn up the warmth knob which counteracts the smiley-face eq

[bmanic]

It's good.. but it is _very_ colored, both in terms of amount of saturation it creates and the amount of EQ changes it does (like +/- 6dB of things all over the place). So if you can tolerate those changes (or compensate for them) then yes, I can very much recommend it.

It can do very clean/neutral as well.

No. Hard disagree.

Turn down the two big knobs on the bottom left: decibels and level and use the hidden output knob as makeup gain. Also turn up the warmth knob which counteracts the smiley-face eq

No matter what you do, you'll still end up with huge EQ changes and a lot of harmonics. That's the whole point of the plugin (and obviously the hardware too which apparently was a compressor/limiter for boats/sea vessels and their radio communication system).

The "warmth" knob does some weird things that I don't like so I rarely it. No, if you want a properly clean EQ frequency response, you create an opposing one yourself and insert it post compression.

[sqigls]

it's the first Kazrog plugin i didn't gel with at all.

[bmanic]

I absolutely love it! It's THE "sausage fattener" type thing. Pretty much every signal can be made "bigger" running through it.

[sqigls]

i'm probably obsessive compulsive or something, but every dynamics plugin i test - i immediately have the urge to gain stage, and if i can't get the flow of it fairly quickly i just say no. I have a few compressors that don't have a 'conventional' detection or whatever, maybe just require a bit or patience and manual reading... i just don't have the time. Even just purely used as a saturator i like to gain stage. I wanna A/B things and know if it's not mostly just the 'volume effect'.

[bmanic]

Totally agree. This one is a bit of a pain due to the clean output knob not having enough range, even at -24dB! It's truly annoying.

I'm always using Airwindows Purestgain plugin as my main gain staging thing for these cases where you can't easily do it within the plugin itself. Then just dump everything into a single plugin container in Reaper and now you can easily A/B with and without the effect.

[multree]

It's good.. but it is _very_ colored, both in terms of amount of saturation it creates and the amount of EQ changes it does (like +/- 6dB of things all over the place). So if you can tolerate those changes (or compensate for them) then yes, I can very much recommend it.

It can do very clean/neutral as well.

No. Hard disagree.

Turn down the two big knobs on the bottom left: decibels and level and use the hidden output knob as makeup gain. Also turn up the warmth knob which counteracts the smiley-face eq

No matter what you do, you'll still end up with huge EQ changes and a lot of harmonics. That's the whole point of the plugin (and obviously the hardware too which apparently was a compressor/limiter for boats/sea vessels and their radio communication system).

The "warmth" knob does some weird things that I don't like so I rarely it. No, if you want a properly clean EQ frequency response, you create an opposing one yourself and insert it post compression.

granted... I don't have your ears or compressor know-how.... but since my first reaction was the same as sqigls', I tried to make it behave more like a standard compressor instead of a saturator. It's obviously not clean as a new pin but cleaner than I initially thought this could be.

I have now made a YouTube video showcasing what I mean..... this will only proof that I have no clue of what I'm doing (using a YouTube video to showcase audio might be one of the signs), but we're all here to learn aren't we.

[bmanic]

Well your own video shows quite clearly just how much the sound changes, even without any compression going on.

The main changes are quite large boosts in the very lows and very highs. Even with the warmth knob turned all the way up you get an overall broad smiley curve EQ going on, with up to 6dB of differences to the original at the very top and very sub lows. If you do NOT use the warmth knob, those EQ differences go beyond 12dB.

The cool thing is, this is obviously by design in the hardware itself. Scooping out mids is something you end up doing on a lot of different material right from the get-go, which is why we humans usually fall for these things that scoop out the mids in a musical manner. It's just super pleasant and makes things really easy to place within a mix.

The only thing I've noticed as an annoyance with this plugin (which is probably true for the hardware too!) is the massive boosting of the highs when you run it on audio sources with difficult highs (sibilant vocals, acoustic guitars with way too much fret zing, synths with aliasing problems etc). But even then, simply being aware of the dangers lets the user apply counteractive EQ either before or after the plugin so it's no big deal.