Which LiquidSonics Reverb?

[Alexander_D]

Thanks for your comment! And what's you favorite reverb plugin?

I like the early reflections in CRP, but I often prefer more creative reverbs or delays for tails. I like QRS emulations for subtle ambience that doesn't cloud the source, particularly on drums, and the new version in Logic is great. I also like QRS-type reverbs for big spaces.

Tai Chi is great, but for some reason I don't end up using it that much... though for rich chorus/detuned sounds it wins, imo better than Relab's Song. The new Relab Rev6000 is great too, but I'm not splashing out for the full version as I have too many reverbs already.

Cascade is really good too for weird spaces.

I am in Cubase... thanks for your thoughts. I am also thinking about Relab reverbs. And they are not so expensive as LiquidSonics...

[vitocorleone123]

Thanks for your comment! And what's you favorite reverb plugin?

I like the early reflections in CRP, but I often prefer more creative reverbs or delays for tails. I like QRS emulations for subtle ambience that doesn't cloud the source, particularly on drums, and the new version in Logic is great. I also like QRS-type reverbs for big spaces.

Tai Chi is great, but for some reason I don't end up using it that much... though for rich chorus/detuned sounds it wins, imo better than Relab's Song. The new Relab Rev6000 is great too, but I'm not splashing out for the full version as I have too many reverbs already.

Cascade is really good too for weird spaces.

I am in Cubase... thanks for your thoughts. I am also thinking about Relab reverbs. And they are not so expensive as LiquidSonics...

The Rev6000 is the next best reverb to me after CRP of that nature, which is why I didn't buy it: too much overlap. I found it more complex to use than CRP, though.

I personally dislike the QRS style reverbs - I've not used the Logic one, though, but did try the Savant and Relab versions. I do kind of like the QRS-inspired VVV and Sonsig ones, though.

[nusound mind]

I find CR-Pro subtler sounding on default than most verbs. I tend to use higher mix knob values w/ it on sends compared to others, and I often crank up the input/volume to make it more pronounced. I find it cleaner / less muddy than most other verbs but at times depending on source it can be too subtle maybe.

I have the opposite problem with something like Silver which boosts signal louder w/ most presets and no input trim to balance volume w/out resorting to another input plugin or fader on the daw, which makes auditioning properly bit of a nuisance.

Cinematic Rooms on my system is remarkably light on cpu, and maybe the best looking reverb I use. Just a great gui imo

[vitocorleone123]

I find CR-Pro subtler sounding on default than most verbs. I tend to use higher mix knob values w/ it on sends compared to others, and I often crank up the input/volume to make it more pronounced. I find it cleaner / less muddy than most other verbs but at times depending on source it can be too subtle maybe.

I have the opposite problem with something like Silver which boosts signal louder w/ most presets and no input trim to balance volume w/out resorting to another input plugin or fader on the daw, which makes auditioning properly bit of a nuisance.

Cinematic Rooms on my system is remarkably light on cpu, and maybe the best looking reverb I use. Just a great gui imo

Don't forget to enable chorus on the ER/LRs if you also want to make it a little less subtle. You can also shape the sound with the built in EQ to be less subtle. You could also make the reverb pretty strong and then use ducking so it pokes out more in the between parts.

But, yeah, it's meant to be near-realistic and not a pronounced effect - that's what 7HP, HDCart, TC, etc. are for.

[Alexander_D]

Thanks for your comment! And what's you favorite reverb plugin?

I like the early reflections in CRP, but I often prefer more creative reverbs or delays for tails. I like QRS emulations for subtle ambience that doesn't cloud the source, particularly on drums, and the new version in Logic is great. I also like QRS-type reverbs for big spaces.

Tai Chi is great, but for some reason I don't end up using it that much... though for rich chorus/detuned sounds it wins, imo better than Relab's Song. The new Relab Rev6000 is great too, but I'm not splashing out for the full version as I have too many reverbs already.

Cascade is really good too for weird spaces.

I am in Cubase... thanks for your thoughts. I am also thinking about Relab reverbs. And they are not so expensive as LiquidSonics...

The Rev6000 is the next best reverb to me after CRP of that nature, which is why I didn't buy it: too much overlap. I found it more complex to use than CRP, though.

I personally dislike the QRS style reverbs - I've not used the Logic one, though, but did try the Savant and Relab versions. I do kind of like the QRS-inspired VVV and Sonsig ones, though.

Thanks! But the first one is CRP, right? I have budget only for one honestly...

[xx JPRacer xx]

Best reverb I heard is 2CAudio Precedence and Breeze 2 combo. Can't beat that and you can have thousands of instances and the CPU is still happy. Of course forget it if you have a Mac or care about long term support. A shame we'll never have a Breeze 3 or Aether 2 (but Reverside can be IT).

[vitocorleone123]

Thanks for your comment! And what's you favorite reverb plugin?

I like the early reflections in CRP, but I often prefer more creative reverbs or delays for tails. I like QRS emulations for subtle ambience that doesn't cloud the source, particularly on drums, and the new version in Logic is great. I also like QRS-type reverbs for big spaces.

Tai Chi is great, but for some reason I don't end up using it that much... though for rich chorus/detuned sounds it wins, imo better than Relab's Song. The new Relab Rev6000 is great too, but I'm not splashing out for the full version as I have too many reverbs already.

Cascade is really good too for weird spaces.

I am in Cubase... thanks for your thoughts. I am also thinking about Relab reverbs. And they are not so expensive as LiquidSonics...

The Rev6000 is the next best reverb to me after CRP of that nature, which is why I didn't buy it: too much overlap. I found it more complex to use than CRP, though.

I personally dislike the QRS style reverbs - I've not used the Logic one, though, but did try the Savant and Relab versions. I do kind of like the QRS-inspired VVV and Sonsig ones, though.

Thanks! But the first one is CRP, right? I have budget only for one honestly...

If your ears don't hear a difference between Cinematic Rooms and Cinematic Rooms Pro, there's no reason to go with Pro if working in mono/stereo.

But, yes, Cinematic Rooms Pro is the reverb my ears like best out of every reverb plugin I've ever tried.

[cryophonik]

My resistance broke down yesterday and I spent the $119 for the Reverberate/Tai Chi Lite/Seventh Heaven bundle, even though I'm swimming in reverb plugins already. The download was painfully slow for Reverberate plus all the extra impulses (totaling something like 20GB) and my initial thoughts after finally getting it installed and testing it out are that it's probably not worth the HD drive space to keep it installed, given the dozens of other reverbs I already own. But, TCL and SH are both excellent sounding and I may eventually upgrade one or both of them to the full versions.

[Alexander_D]

Thanks for your comment! And what's you favorite reverb plugin?

I like the early reflections in CRP, but I often prefer more creative reverbs or delays for tails. I like QRS emulations for subtle ambience that doesn't cloud the source, particularly on drums, and the new version in Logic is great. I also like QRS-type reverbs for big spaces.

Tai Chi is great, but for some reason I don't end up using it that much... though for rich chorus/detuned sounds it wins, imo better than Relab's Song. The new Relab Rev6000 is great too, but I'm not splashing out for the full version as I have too many reverbs already.

Cascade is really good too for weird spaces.

I am in Cubase... thanks for your thoughts. I am also thinking about Relab reverbs. And they are not so expensive as LiquidSonics...

The Rev6000 is the next best reverb to me after CRP of that nature, which is why I didn't buy it: too much overlap. I found it more complex to use than CRP, though.

I personally dislike the QRS style reverbs - I've not used the Logic one, though, but did try the Savant and Relab versions. I do kind of like the QRS-inspired VVV and Sonsig ones, though.

Thanks! But the first one is CRP, right? I have budget only for one honestly...

If your ears don't hear a difference between Cinematic Rooms and Cinematic Rooms Pro, there's no reason to go with Pro if working in mono/stereo.

But, yes, Cinematic Rooms Pro is the reverb my ears like best out of every reverb plugin I've ever tried.

Great! I was purchased pro version right now here on KVR

[vitocorleone123]

My resistance broke down yesterday and I spent the $119 for the Reverberate/Tai Chi Lite/Seventh Heaven bundle, even though I'm swimming in reverb plugins already. The download was painfully slow for Reverberate plus all the extra impulses (totaling something like 20GB) and my initial thoughts after finally getting it installed and testing it out are that it's probably not worth the HD drive space to keep it installed, given the dozens of other reverbs I already own. But, TCL and SH are both excellent sounding and I may eventually upgrade one or both of them to the full versions.

If you're using the special impulses from Liquidsonics, nothing else sounds like them in Reverberate3 as they're in a proprietary format/capture mode. For me, Reverberate 3 is very powerful and can sound great, but takes too much tweaking and I'd rather just use CRP, TC, HDCart, or LPS from them.

[comfortablynick]

IIRC from last year, bundles aren't usually the most cost-effective way to go during the BF sale. Stacking the discounts works best if you buy the lite/non-pro version first, then save that discount code and apply it to a different plugin, then apply that code to the upgrade, etc. It's a bit of work but if you do it correctly it's possible to save a ton.

[yellowmix]

The download was painfully slow for Reverberate plus all the extra impulses (totaling something like 20GB) and my initial thoughts after finally getting it installed and testing it out are that it's probably not worth the HD drive space to keep it installed [...]

You can keep Reverberate 3 installed (especially if you have an IR library) and choose whatever extra impulses you want, or none at all. It may help to understand what each one is. Heritage series are Fusion-IRs of classic algo units, but if you have a really good emulation it may feel redundant. FS-91 is a Lexicon PCM91, FS-48 is a Lexicon 480L, FS-24x a Lexicon 224XL. So these are competing more with Tai Chi. M7, you have the improved version.

However, I find having them useful if you often feel the need to customize a reverb with routing and other plugins. Since in Reverberate you can do a lot of that shaping and routing. Example: mixing ER and LR from different reverbs. Reverb 1 with M7 ER cropped to spatialize a vocal, with a plate LR on Reverb 2 to smooth and smear. Bonus is you can adjust timing independently so you can give the vocal room before the LR starts smearing it, and have holistic shaping.

[yellowmix]

If your ears don't hear a difference between Cinematic Rooms and Cinematic Rooms Pro, there's no reason to go with Pro if working in mono/stereo.

It's not just the sound, it's the workflow. But Pro adds both. There's a comparison on the product page. Pro adds:

Reflection and reverb chorus engines
Reverb echo
Enhanced reflection control
Width control
Crossfeed disparity definition
Ducker / compressor (optional external sidechain trigger)
Gate (including wet / dry / sidechain trigger)

The mix controls are gravy at this point but it's become a noticeable deciding factor for me in which reverb plugins I go to.

[yellowmix]

Best reverb I heard is 2CAudio Precedence and Breeze 2 combo. Can't beat that and you can have thousands of instances and the CPU is still happy. Of course forget it if you have a Mac or care about long term support. A shame we'll never have a Breeze 3 or Aether 2 (but Reverside can be IT).

Breeze 2 is fantastic as a go-to you can stick on every track (and often stays), and spatialization with Precedence is very easy but it gets unwieldy if you have many instances. Precedence was supposed to get directly integrated into the reverbs. But yeah, they're now legacy reverbs like WizooVerb.

What's Reverside? Web search is not turning up anything relevant.

[comfortablynick]

What's Reverside? Web search is not turning up anything relevant.

A new reverb from one of the 2CAudio guys, see this thread: viewtopic.php?p=9007765#p9007765