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I need a dynamic EQ with >20 parametric bands. A quick search in the market gets me these:

Fabfilter Pro-Q3, TBT Kirchhoff EQ, Toneboosters Equalizer Pro.

How much do they differ? Any suggestions on which one to take?

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Kirchhoff EQ
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They're all good with various Pros/Cons/Workflow. I have and like Pro-Q3. I use it on Mac's, PC's old and new daily and always gets me the results I'm looking for.

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Kirchoff EQ is a bit of a pain to setup for dynamic EQ action but once you do, it can yield amazing results! Pro-Q3 is much easier and quicker to setup and also results in really good controlled dynamics for the selected EQ area.

Why do you need 20 bands of it? Trying to setup some sort of multi-band thing? If that's the case then something like Voxengo Soniformer or Voxengo TEOTE may suit you better.
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If you need 20 bands, you are using the wrong tool.

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bmanic wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 1:54 am Kirchoff EQ is a bit of a pain to setup for dynamic EQ action but once you do, it can yield amazing results! Pro-Q3 is much easier and quicker to setup and also results in really good controlled dynamics for the selected EQ area.

Why do you need 20 bands of it? Trying to setup some sort of multi-band thing? If that's the case then something like Voxengo Soniformer or Voxengo TEOTE may suit you better.
Just for some heavy surgical work on samples. Maybe I am not really using the right tool?

Please educate me about this.

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bmanic wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 1:54 am Voxengo Soniformer or Voxengo TEOTE may suit you better.
You can't buy Voxengo anymore though unless you live in Russia because the payment provider withdrew their services due to sanctions

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loctune wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 11:15 am
bmanic wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 1:54 am Why do you need 20 bands of it? Trying to setup some sort of multi-band thing? If that's the case then something like Voxengo Soniformer or Voxengo TEOTE may suit you better.
Just for some heavy surgical work on samples. Maybe I am not really using the right tool?

Please educate me about this.
You might want to give soothe a try, in case you want to tame multiple harsh peaks that happen all around the frequency spectrum.

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jakke wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 2:26 pm
loctune wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 11:15 am
bmanic wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 1:54 am Why do you need 20 bands of it? Trying to setup some sort of multi-band thing? If that's the case then something like Voxengo Soniformer or Voxengo TEOTE may suit you better.
Just for some heavy surgical work on samples. Maybe I am not really using the right tool?

Please educate me about this.
You might want to give soothe a try, in case you want to tame multiple harsh peaks that happen all around the frequency spectrum.
That'll most likely my approach or the new Waves Equator alternative, and maybe stack that with a dynamic eq with a smaller number of bands.

That said, I don't know what the intent is. If its to brutalise a sample and mangle it beyond all recognition then this may not be the best approach.

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ReaFIR (in the free reaper effects suite here: https://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/) is an FFT based tool that can do this for 4096 bands for super surgical eq.

There are a bunch of tools like teote/ soniformer these days (DSM3, unveil, smarteq, mspectraldynamics, etc) but most of them capture the curve and may not be able to edit it exactly.

You may have better results in a spectral tool like Alchemy or Iris.

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Update:

I ended up buying Pro-Q3. Used it together with Spectralayer Pro and successfully brought the samples back to life again. I am happy. And I can probably also use Pro-Q3 for all my tracks in the future. It's just a great tool.

Thanks for the great advices!

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roman.i wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 8:59 am If you need 20 bands, you are using the wrong tool.
I absolutely disagree with this, sorry.

One note = one frequency. A piano MIDI keyboard is 61 to 88 notes.

You may need way more than this if you want to tweak a sample library, I very often need about 50. I de-mud every-note in the 250-650Hz range, and de-ess every single note in the 3500-11000Hz range. And that’s just the beginning. A single parameter works in no-case for all purposes. The Fletcher-Manson curve itself couldn’t be properly covered after hours of tweaking your curve, even if it’s what you’re after. Or it’s a monitors problem, an upgrade is needed. Mine are fine, they show big troubles with only 4 or 5 bands, sorry. And people pay for what I do.

I personally use Melda MADEq as a dynamiq EQ. :tu:

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DJErmac wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 6:16 pm I absolutely disagree with this, sorry.

One note = one frequency. A piano MIDI keyboard is 61 to 88 notes.

You may need way more than this if you want to tweak a sample library, I very often need about 50. I de-mud every-note in the 250-650Hz range, and de-ess every single note in the 3500-11000Hz range. And that’s just the beginning. A single parameter works in no-case for all purposes. The Fletcher-Manson curve itself couldn’t be properly covered after hours of tweaking your curve, even if it’s what you’re after. Or it’s a monitors problem, an upgrade is needed. Mine are fine, they show big troubles with only 4 or 5 bands, sorry. And people pay for what I do.

I personally use Melda MADEq as a dynamiq EQ. :tu:
Isn't it the same as applying Soothe on that track?

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Toneboosters Equalizer 4 (very inexpensive, great value) or TDR Nova (has a free version).

TB Equalizer Pro is really new, and has a bunch of other features you may or may not need. Equalizer 4 is pretty much ideal if all you need is dynamic EQ without the other bells/whistles.

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