VPS Avenger 2.4 [RELEASED - FAQ in OP]

[Razzia]

If you jump to 4:55 in this video, they talk about how the UI designer went beyond what they originally asked for, and just presented them with a blank slate redesign of the interface, which was a lot more work to implement but seems to have been worth it.

I hope they'll allow that designer to revisit the Avenger 2 UI with the eyes of a UI professional as well, because despite being an amazing synth, the UI is quite clunky and old fashioned in general.

For actual use and workflow, I think the avenger UI is pretty fkn amazing. Levels above nexus in that regard.

I agree. I think it's one of the most useful synth UIs, especially for such a complex synth.
A UI that is easy to understand, not unnecessarily full of clutter that overwhelms the eye, and gives you quick access to as many features as possible is all I really ask for. In that regard, Avenger, Phase Plant and to a slightly lesser extent Current are the ones that click for me.

My one criticism all this time has been that I wish it were possible to minimize the browser and use that space for something else. But given all the things they get right, it's a pretty minor concern.

[noiseboyuk]

Does anyone know if there is a written list of samples that are contained in an Avenger expansion?

Since there's nothing available, I thought I'd make a quick silent video quickly clicking through the factory samples in the browser. Better than nothing, hopefully.

[msvs]

Welcome to the next chapter of our Trance collection: approaching to planet earth is "Trance Four", delivering the finest, most sophisticated sounds for today’s modern Trance scene. The legendary duo of Manuel Schleis and Alan Morris have teamed up once again, bringing their expert craftsmanship to this expansion, showcasing their mastery in the genre. With uplifting leads, euphoric pads, beautifully composed arps, cutting basslines, and a host of fresh vocal phrases that sync to your tempo and adapt to your pitch, Trance Four offers a truly immersive experience. And that’s just the beginning - this expansion is packed with so much content, it could easily be considered two expansions in one. If you’re passionate about Trance music, this is a gem you won’t want to miss. Dive in and elevate your sound to new heights!


Attention: VPS Avenger version 2.3 minimum required!

this expansion adds to your library:

141 Avenger presets 23 new drumkits/sequences
50 new multisamples 2 new multiloops
22 new shapes 40 new granular samples
7 new wavetables 132 new arp patterns

[msvs]

and Bartek

[rlared]

Good Lord how do you crank out so many awesome sounds man

[Echoes in the Attic]

How do I remove Avenger from my Mac completely? I've deleted the audio library system component plugin, and VST3, removed application support stuff, and searched my hard drive for anything Vengeance or VPS or Avenger, and it's all gone. And I've still got it showing in my Audio Units in Ableton Live after refresh. Is there a hidden one somewhere?

[Jac459]

This synth sounds good... Such a shame it isn't optimised for Mac .

[m-ac]

This synth sounds good... Such a shame it isn't optimised for Mac .

I'm sorry you're having problems with Avenger too now, but can you now see how frustrating it is when others are saying they run multiple instances of avenger without any issues at all, yet some of us can't even run a single instance?! Vengeance need to put more resources into this issue, its pretty ridiculous.

I don't even mind it using more CPU on mac, but these 100% CPU spikes when NOTHING is being played....come on. It doesn't happen with a single other synth or plug, of which I'm into the hundreds.

[Jac459]

This synth sounds good... Such a shame it isn't optimised for Mac .

I'm sorry you're having problems with Avenger too now, but can you now see how frustrating it is when others are saying they run multiple instances of avenger without any issues at all, yet some of us can't even run a single instance?! Vengeance need to put more resources into this issue, its pretty ridiculous.

I don't even mind it using more CPU on mac, but these 100% CPU spikes when NOTHING is being played....come on. It doesn't happen with a single other synth or plug, of which I'm into the hundreds.

Yes I agree and I was wrong to think that it doesn't have a practical impact.

With new presets packs becoming more power hungry, it is becoming worse and worse.

The trouble is that problem adds up. Vengeance has this choice to have presets packs that are almost like a full song. It is fun but I am in fact using only one sound of a whole complex presets. So I just solo it because it is a chore to delete all the parts I don't need.
And then I end up with a complex preset for nothing and then my Mac can't run it because even with an M2 Pro I can only run less than 6 avenger instances of a complex preset...


A shame because this synth really sounds awesome.

[Caine123]

first i wasnt interested in the new XP but then some nice 90s styled presets popped up!

im wondering reading so many MAC users having issues, sorry mates, is Vengeance not interested fixing this?
cause i read that for avery long time now, cannot believe it is only a handful of people having probs....

[DCrown]

Demo of Trance XP sounds awesome

[Teksonik]

Does anyone know if there is a written list of samples that are contained in an Avenger expansion?

Since there's nothing available, I thought I'd make a quick silent video quickly clicking through the factory samples in the browser. Better than nothing, hopefully.

Thanks I really appreciate your efforts and the video will help those who do not yet own Avenger but since I already own it I know what is contained in the factory sample content.

My original question was about what's included in the Expansions like the one just announced above:

50 new multisamples

What do those 50 multisamples contain? All Pianos or all Flugelhorns or a bunch of loops or ? We have no way of knowing if the actual sample content is something we want or need and demo videos don't really answer that question.

For the record, the main reason I would buy an expansion is to get more sample content to use in Avenger while making my own patches.

I took a chance and purchased the Synthwave 3 Expansion because it had the most multisamples listed but I have no idea what I'm getting.

Will it be 90% of stuff that I have no use for or will there be a majority of content that I do want and need? We're basically just rolling the dice without proper documentation.

If I'm disappointed in the sample content of an expansion I'm not likely to buy any other expansions so giving customers or potential customers the information they need to make an informed purchasing decision helps both the company and the consumer.

I haven't installed the Synthwave 3 expansion yet so we'll see tomorrow if I made a good choice or not. I'd like to buy more expansions but I don't want to have to rely on blind luck every time.

[m-ac]

With new presets packs becoming more power hungry, it is becoming worse and worse.

Did you see my video? Even with the INIT preset loaded up, the CPU was spiking to 100%. Power hungry presets aren't the problem, its something more fundamentally wrong with the synth engine itself.

[Echoes in the Attic]

How do I remove Avenger from my Mac completely? I've deleted the audio library system component plugin, and VST3, removed application support stuff, and searched my hard drive for anything Vengeance or VPS or Avenger, and it's all gone. And I've still got it showing in my Audio Units in Ableton Live after refresh. Is there a hidden one somewhere?

Anyone? How is Avenger still showing in my audio units?

[rlared]

Just bought Avenger 2. 90% size is about as large as I can reasonably do on my 1920 x 1080 display. But the text looks janky just like Avenger 1 did. The video reviews I've seen online have a much crisper interface. Am I doing something wrong?