Reason 13 Announced- Sequencer updated!

[jens]

I disagree. With my current setup, I couldn't go back to a single screen workflow.

Yes, of course you would say that as first of all you spent good money on your redundant additonal screens - plus, of course, they physically clutter up your workspace

Gaslighting much? It's rather impressive how people like you think they can demand how other people should perceive their reality

Coming from the dude who just replied to my "Neither way of working is objectively better than the other of course."* with "I disagree"

...son?

Yeah, the joke was obviously lost on you, old man.

Who's condescending here? I'm definitely not your son, and I'll bet I'm quite a bit older than you

But as you clearly want to turn this into some pissing contest, I'm sorry, but I won't play. Have a nice day.

Come on - in all honesty it was obviously actually who wanted that - you just apparently didn't think this through, or otherwise you'd have put your oilskin on. And now that you ended up soaking wet you play the sulking game.



*And frankly: it was just me being polite. Your setup is completely absurd. What's the actual distance between the mixer- and and rack-screen and by how many degrees do you have to rotate your body and/or head left/right and up/down between these?
How many degrees up/down between the arragement and the mixer? And why is the arrangement screen that much smaller? How long are your songs typically? 16bars?
Plus, of course, the distance between where you're sitting and both these screens is about the same, which doesn't make sense. The smaller screen is a bit too far away and the mixer-screen is far too close for its size (and the rack-screen is of course much too far away) - meaning you have to turn you head a lot between its left and right edge, which is as unhealthy as it is inefficient and uncomfortable.

You have some reading up to do regarding screen-sizes, resolutions and the ergonomics of using computer-screens.

[LaLivre]

Why can't this customer- and user ignorant company just update this outdated DAW a bit and listen to the wishes? Why is everything so complicated with them? Why does even a small update to 13.1. take forever and bring stuff NOBODY asked for (except Tags)? Why works every other company in the western hemisphere been more customer oriented and faster for years? Why does this managemnt dissolve a great customer community and divide its users?

It's terrible. It's just terrible.

Just couldn't take it anymore...

[crimsonwarlock]

Coming from the dude who just replied to my "Neither way of working is objectively better than the other of course."* with "I disagree"

So, people can't disagree with you, you are always right (a tendency that shows in most of your posts here). I actually told you why I disagree, but then you told me I'm all wrong in how I see those things... that is basically the definition of gaslighting.

Your setup is completely absurd.
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How long are your songs typically? 16bars?
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You have some reading up to do regarding screen-sizes, resolutions and the ergonomics of using computer-screens.

Yep, still mister know-it-all, still using that condescending tone... definitely not worth my time. Say hello to my block-list.

[Zikax]

Why can't this customer- and user ignorant company just update this outdated DAW a bit and listen to the wishes? Why is everything so complicated with them? Why does even a small update to 13.1. take forever and bring stuff NOBODY asked for (except Tags)? Why works every other company in the western hemisphere been more customer oriented and faster for years? Why does this managemnt dissolve a great customer community and divide its users?

It's terrible. It's just terrible.

Just couldn't take it anymore...

The problem lies with the leadership. Mattias, as the Product Manager, should have stepped down a long time ago. In my opinion, he’s not the right person for the job. It’s obvious that they’re not up to date when you consider the decisions they’re making. Instead of wasting the budget on their bizarre ReasonParties, they should hire new, young developers. Even the new browser completely overwhelmed them, and it’s not even good.

In summary: the budget is small, the team is small and not qualified enough, and the leadership is making poor decisions.

The only thing they were really good at was marketing Reason. Why? Because Reason looks very attractive visually and appeals to a lot of people. But that’s about it. Reason is extremely overpriced. When new updates come out, they are very small compared to other DAWs. And when something new does come, it’s usually just an effect, player, or instrument. They took forever to implement VST3 support, and when it finally arrived, they acted as if they had invented it.

Overall, Reason is a good program with a lot of potential for improvement, but when you look at the bigger picture, you really have to keep your expectations very low.

[LaLivre]

Keep the expectations very low or jump the ship like many others do. And their whole marketing became terrible over the last years, too. Totally confuse and way too hip.

How on earth can you run a company so badly and involve your customers and the user community so poorly?

It's just unbelievable, isn't it?

[liquidsound]

Oxymoron at its best “Reason Studios”

Well… almost

[eerie_audio]

The problem lies with the leadership.

[VOODOO U]

You guys should try Reaper. You can demo it for free (unlike Reason) and try out its way better browser and arrangement workflow.

[kmonkey]

You guys should try Reaper. You can demo it for free (unlike Reason) and try out its way better browser and arrangement workflow.

No look I use Reaper now, I converted to Reaper and it is a relief but honestly, Reaper is a completely different paradigm, and out of 100 people who used Reason at least 150 won't like coming to Reaper. Be honest about it.

Yes Reaper can do so much but it is like comparing a Bigfoot to Wesley Snipes something like that

[crimsonwarlock]

Someone keeps persisting that you can't try out Reason for free, while you obviously can. Just download the installer and install it, it will run in demo mode without a license. I even posted the link to the download page a short while ago.

Look, I understand people not liking Reason for this or that, but let's stop posting pure BS about it. There are enough real issues to point at, if you feel the need to vent.

[VOODOO U]

out of 100 people who used Reason at least 150 won't like coming to Reaper.

Woah. Where did those other 50 people come from?

Be honest about it.

Yeah I used to use Reason rewired to Ableton live. During this time I did a demo on Reaper and thought it was the worst pile of a mess. No charm in its workflow and feature implementations.
Now i appreciate that it just gets the job done, maybe not as pretty, but it does do the job. And I cannot be grateful enough to Cockos for their no.nonsense approach to inviting new users in and in purchasing/registering their product.

Yes Reaper can do so much but it is like comparing a Bigfoot to Wesley Snipes something like that

Yeah Reaper is a big ugly hairy mess like Bigfoot but there's no film star drama (no nonsense approach).
Reason is like a handsome charismatic Wesley Snipes (Reaaon GUI/layout looks good) but it comes with all the Hollywood baggage:
subscribe if you want all the goodies, register every year, no offline activation....yadda yadda. Like a demanding stuck-up movie star.

[VOODOO U]

Someone keeps persisting that you can't try out Reason for free, while you obviously can.

No. It's not obvious.

Just download the installer and install it, it will run in demo mode without a license. I even posted the link to the download page a short while ago.

No. You posted a link to a Reason Studios registration page.

[crimsonwarlock]

Just download the installer and install it, it will run in demo mode without a license. I even posted the link to the download page a short while ago.

No. You posted a link to a Reason Studios registration page.

No, I posted the link to the download page for the latest R13 release. Here it is AGAIN: https://www.reasonstudios.com/download/reason1303/

But by all means, keep acting like an idiot

[liquidsound]

Just download the installer and install it, it will run in demo mode without a license. I even posted the link to the download page a short while ago.

No. You posted a link to a Reason Studios registration page.

No, I posted the link to the download page for the latest R13 release. Here it is AGAIN: https://www.reasonstudios.com/download/reason1303/

But by all means, keep acting like an idiot

Yes, but you need to have an account or make one to access the download.
Not a big deal but "You posted a link to a Reason Studios registration page" is correct.

[VOODOO U]

But by all means, keep acting like an idiot

You're doing a much better job at it then I can.