I want a refund!Caine123 wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:43 am it is 12.12.2024 !!!! no Fabfilter Pro-Q4 !!!!!!!!!!!! unbelievable!!!!!![]()
Fabfilter Pro-Q 4!
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- KVRAF
- 1886 posts since 8 Jan, 2022
I'm off to make a Youtube reaction video:Caine123 wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:43 am it is 12.12.2024 !!!! no Fabfilter Pro-Q4 !!!!!!!!!!!! unbelievable!!!!!![]()
"Fabfilter no show. Where did it all go wrong?"
- KVRAF
- 25012 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Lol...jtsterays wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 11:15 pmHere you go : https://gearspace.com/board/showpost.ph ... tcount=201MrJubbly wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 11:12 pmInteresting take. I always believed that Fabfilter Pro-Q was an improved version of Image-Line's "Fruity Parametric EQ 2" which released just a couple of years prior to Pro-Q v1.jtsterays wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:34 pm Heck they didn't even invent the "Pro-Q GUI", Voxengo made it first in 2004 + Spectrum sharing.
But I suppose if Voxengo's "Parametric Equalizer" was released as early as you say in 2004, that may have even influenced Image-Line's design first.
Either way, I'm grateful these plugins did improve the workflow for EQ plugins over the more rigid iterations before them.
this was originally released in 2001.
- KVRist
- 418 posts since 22 May, 2023
Holy shit, that plugin was SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS.
https://web.archive.org/web/20060513184 ... m/eqlp.php
https://web.archive.org/web/20060513184 ... m/eqlp.php
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- Pick Me Pick me!
- 10236 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from a state of confusion
Pro Audio plugins way back were expensive indeed. They were still quite novel for the time though. PC music production and the amateur heavy 'beat' making scene hadn't really formed widespread quite yet.hey212 wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:26 am Holy shit, that plugin was SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS.
https://web.archive.org/web/20060513184 ... m/eqlp.php
Here is Wave's L3 when it was released in 2005: $600 USD.
Twenty years later it costs 30 dollars. (And looks all the same
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- Pick Me Pick me!
- 10236 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from a state of confusion
Btw it wasn't just Pro Audio plugins. In the graphics world, Photoshop Plugins cost a lot then too. I remember the Nik Software Collection was 600 dollars. Photoshop itself was 600 dollars as well, though that was a perpetual license. Plus computers cost a lot too, unless you wanted a super underpowered toaster.
Today You can buy a 500 dollar multicore laptop and a 200 dollar controller keyboard, that comes bundled with a lite version of Ableton Live, Fruity, or Cubase and get a wealth of rock bottom priced plugins that exceed anything we might have paid hundreds of dollars before in the past.
The other aspect is the dollar was worth more but we got paid less. So 600 dollars then is closer to 1000 dollars now.
We all had to compute barefoot, for 60 Megabytes uphill, in the snow. You whippersnappers have it so good.
Today You can buy a 500 dollar multicore laptop and a 200 dollar controller keyboard, that comes bundled with a lite version of Ableton Live, Fruity, or Cubase and get a wealth of rock bottom priced plugins that exceed anything we might have paid hundreds of dollars before in the past.
The other aspect is the dollar was worth more but we got paid less. So 600 dollars then is closer to 1000 dollars now.
We all had to compute barefoot, for 60 Megabytes uphill, in the snow. You whippersnappers have it so good.
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- Pick Me Pick me!
- 10236 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from a state of confusion
hey212 wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:58 am If FabFilter had a time machine they could show up in 2001 slingin ProQ licenses for $10,000 easy.
Then again, if FF had a time machine, they'd probably have bigger fish to fry than slingin plugins.
- KVRAF
- 25012 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
That's a different one though... the one I mentioned came free with Sonar 2 XLhey212 wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:26 am Holy shit, that plugin was SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS.
https://web.archive.org/web/20060513184 ... m/eqlp.php
- KVRAF
- 25012 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Not the Sonic Timeworks stuff...
- KVRist
- 418 posts since 22 May, 2023
I mean, time is immaterial in this scenario. Even if you were inclined to stop a few world wars and prevent the climate crisis, you could still sling plugins for the lolz. I bet they would.VitaminD wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 3:11 amhey212 wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:58 am If FabFilter had a time machine they could show up in 2001 slingin ProQ licenses for $10,000 easy.I'm not sure our computers could handle it back then. But yeah everyone would think you'd have just landed from a spaceship if you showed up with Q3 or Q4 back then. The plugin quality was.. lesser.. back then.
Then again, if FF had a time machine, they'd probably have bigger fish to fry than slingin plugins.![]()
- KVRAF
- 11369 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
You are completely missing the point if you think simply adding a spectrum analyzer to the EQ was the revolution that Pro-Q created. That wasn't at all what made it popular.jtsterays wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 11:15 pmHere you go : https://gearspace.com/board/showpost.ph ... tcount=201MrJubbly wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 11:12 pmInteresting take. I always believed that Fabfilter Pro-Q was an improved version of Image-Line's "Fruity Parametric EQ 2" which released just a couple of years prior to Pro-Q v1.jtsterays wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:34 pm Heck they didn't even invent the "Pro-Q GUI", Voxengo made it first in 2004 + Spectrum sharing.
But I suppose if Voxengo's "Parametric Equalizer" was released as early as you say in 2004, that may have even influenced Image-Line's design first.
Either way, I'm grateful these plugins did improve the workflow for EQ plugins over the more rigid iterations before them.
Besides, Voxengo GlissEQ wasn't the first either. Not even close.
What Pro-Q did was revolutionize the workflow and the absolutely ridiculous smoothness of it's operation, how the mouse works, how nodes were created automatically depending on where you clicked.
Ever wonder why nobody copied Voxengo plugins designs even though they were pretty damn popular? Because they were clunky. THIS is what Pro-Q changed and why you quickly found a lot of copy-cats afterwards (and it took years before anybody came even remotely close.. even a decade!).
Even to this day, nobody does mouse left click + mouse move on a knob better than FabFilter. You have instant fine tuning while you also get coarse tuning of the whole range of the knob with the flick of your wrist and it's 100% intuitive for pretty much all people. It just works. Their "accelerated" knob movement and smoothing is still at the very top of ANY software that has virtual knobs of any kind (this includes graphics programs, 3D programs etc).
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- KVRist
- 188 posts since 2 Dec, 2020 from Wellington, New Zealand
oop found the installer before launch


Edit: It's live!
https://www.fabfilter.com/shop/pro-q-4- ... er-plug-in


Edit: It's live!
https://www.fabfilter.com/shop/pro-q-4- ... er-plug-in
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- KVRian
- 919 posts since 7 Sep, 2014
Looks really smooth! The design of Fabfilter plugins are amazing! The quality is also great!nishyp wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 8:42 am oop found the installer before launch![]()
Edit: It's live!
https://www.fabfilter.com/shop/pro-q-4- ... er-plug-in
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- KVRer
- 19 posts since 26 Feb, 2019
Yes, there is a very small discount.Jac459 wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:56 amFor second one are you sure? I have a lot of their products (I miss just 2 or 3) and I remember pro R2 upgrade was quite expensive for me. Maybe 69eur.
Like if you only own a Q3, you will have to pay 84USD to upgrade to Q4, but I own every single plugin in their store except for Q4, so my personal upgrade price is 62.65USD.
