discoDSP updates Discovery Pro Synthesizer to v8.4.0

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gentleclockdivider wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 4:01 pm
BrokenTrance wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 2:43 pm I think the main developer of this vsti:s can't change the preset browser. Otherwise we would already see proper change.
The main developer arguru (. Juan Antonio Arguelles Rius )died 18 years ago in a carcrash , a verry talented coder .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Anto ... elles_Rius
Is there anything discoDSP has ever done in house? It seems like everything is based around open source code. It feels a bit icky to say the least.

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wvshpr wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 5:50 am
gentleclockdivider wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 4:01 pm
BrokenTrance wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 2:43 pm I think the main developer of this vsti:s can't change the preset browser. Otherwise we would already see proper change.
The main developer arguru (. Juan Antonio Arguelles Rius )died 18 years ago in a carcrash , a verry talented coder .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Anto ... elles_Rius
Is there anything discoDSP has ever done in house? It seems like everything is based around open source code. It feels a bit icky to say the least.
Ah, this explains why we’ll never see polyphonic aftertouch or MPE support. Shame. I like Discovery Pro but without those things, I’m going to choose a different plugin every time.
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gentleclockdivider wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 12:34 pm
discoDSP wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 7:09 am Thanks for your interest, but comparing a Nord Lead 2X emulator to Discovery Pro isn’t really accurate. When you look at the features side by side, it’s clear that Discovery Pro offers more advanced options and innovation. Its quality speaks for itself and goes beyond what the original Nord Lead offers.
Does it ?
imho there is nothing innovative about dicovery pro , it's arguru's legacy code + open source tackled on + improved filters
One of the most awesome features of the nord lead2 is the drum mode , you don't have that .
Discovery pro is marketed as a nord lead emulation right from the beginning (why else would you choose a 1:1 gui lookalike ) but it'still doesn't sound like a nord lead .
Nodal red will , and honoustly I would never choose discovery for it's ( your words ) advanced features ...there are far better tools for that .
It's no surprise you announced a new arp .feature just when Nodal Red is announced , you're feeling the heat ..
seeing you how much you comment ond DiscoDSP i get a feeling its more of a personal grudge.

Discovery Pro was never marketed as Nord emulation, inspired, not emulated at best a SIMULATION :) Nodal is an emulation, because it emulates the ROM :)

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Last edited by SLiC on Thu Aug 15, 2024 9:23 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Lbdunequest wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 8:54 am Nodal is an emulation, because it emulates the ROM :)
It doesn't emulate the ROM, the emulation is of of the Motorola DSP563xx chip that the ROMS ran on, the software is using the manufacturers original ROM, and as its essentially a 'software' synths ruining on hardware (a chip) the sound and operation is 'exactly' the same as the original hardware (other than the IO, most of us will have better IO than these hardware synths had!)
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Wrong it doesn't "emulate" the rom.

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Lbdunequest wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 8:54 am
gentleclockdivider wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 12:34 pm
discoDSP wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 7:09 am Thanks for your interest, but comparing a Nord Lead 2X emulator to Discovery Pro isn’t really accurate. When you look at the features side by side, it’s clear that Discovery Pro offers more advanced options and innovation. Its quality speaks for itself and goes beyond what the original Nord Lead offers.
Does it ?
imho there is nothing innovative about dicovery pro , it's arguru's legacy code + open source tackled on + improved filters
One of the most awesome features of the nord lead2 is the drum mode , you don't have that .
Discovery pro is marketed as a nord lead emulation right from the beginning (why else would you choose a 1:1 gui lookalike ) but it'still doesn't sound like a nord lead .
Nodal red will , and honoustly I would never choose discovery for it's ( your words ) advanced features ...there are far better tools for that .
It's no surprise you announced a new arp .feature just when Nodal Red is announced , you're feeling the heat ..
seeing you how much you comment ond DiscoDSP i get a feeling its more of a personal grudge.

Discovery Pro was never marketed as Nord emulation, inspired, not emulated at best a SIMULATION :) Nodal is an emulation, because it emulates the ROM :)
Everything you wrote is wrong ,
Perhaps do some research before putting your fingers on the keyboard :lol:
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gentleclockdivider wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 9:28 am
Lbdunequest wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 8:54 am
gentleclockdivider wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 12:34 pm
discoDSP wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 7:09 am Thanks for your interest, but comparing a Nord Lead 2X emulator to Discovery Pro isn’t really accurate. When you look at the features side by side, it’s clear that Discovery Pro offers more advanced options and innovation. Its quality speaks for itself and goes beyond what the original Nord Lead offers.
Does it ?
imho there is nothing innovative about dicovery pro , it's arguru's legacy code + open source tackled on + improved filters
One of the most awesome features of the nord lead2 is the drum mode , you don't have that .
Discovery pro is marketed as a nord lead emulation right from the beginning (why else would you choose a 1:1 gui lookalike ) but it'still doesn't sound like a nord lead .
Nodal red will , and honoustly I would never choose discovery for it's ( your words ) advanced features ...there are far better tools for that .
It's no surprise you announced a new arp .feature just when Nodal Red is announced , you're feeling the heat ..
seeing you how much you comment ond DiscoDSP i get a feeling its more of a personal grudge.

Discovery Pro was never marketed as Nord emulation, inspired, not emulated at best a SIMULATION :) Nodal is an emulation, because it emulates the ROM :)
Everything you wrote is wrong ,
Perhaps do some research before putting your fingers on the keyboard :lol:
Prove me wrong before putting your fingers on the keyboard :lol:

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SLiC wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 9:23 am
Lbdunequest wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 8:54 am Nodal is an emulation, because it emulates the ROM :)
It doesn't emulate the ROM, the emulation is of of the Motorola DSP563xx chip that the ROMS ran on, the software is using the manufacturers original ROM, and as its essentially a 'software' synths ruining on hardware (a chip) the sound and operation is 'exactly' the same as the original hardware (other than the IO, most of us will have better IO than these hardware synths had!)
So it is an emulation of a synth in other words right? thats how video game console emulations work, they emulate the computer and you run (emulate, recreate) the software on it.

Discovery doesnt state that, its just inspired by the synth and it clearly states.

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Lbdunequest wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 11:37 am
SLiC wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 9:23 am
Lbdunequest wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 8:54 am Nodal is an emulation, because it emulates the ROM :)
It doesn't emulate the ROM, the emulation is of of the Motorola DSP563xx chip that the ROMS ran on, the software is using the manufacturers original ROM, and as its essentially a 'software' synths ruining on hardware (a chip) the sound and operation is 'exactly' the same as the original hardware (other than the IO, most of us will have better IO than these hardware synths had!)
So it is an emulation of a synth in other words right? thats how video game console emulations work, they emulate the computer and you run (emulate, recreate) the software on it.

Discovery doesnt state that, its just inspired by the synth and it clearly states.
Yes, but you said it emulates the ROM, its important people know it doesn’t and there is a great area involving the use of the ROM (which isn’t provided with Modal). You need to be a little bit ‘techs’ to get Modal running, search for stuff etc…Discovery is all nicely packaged for you (but obviously Nodal is free). It’s great to have choices!
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Discovery can load NL patches but it doesnt sound like a NL. Discovery has more features, but the thing that makes the NL sound so good and unique, the stuff like OSCs, incredible clean but unique filters and FM etc are not the same.
Soundwise NL (and running NL rom in Nodal) has superior sound quality, its just not debateable.
Not saying Discovery is a bad synth in its own worth, it has more features and it was one of the top software synths back when it was released, but when talking actual raw sound quality, its is not on par with NL.

Nodal Red emulator takes more CPU as well, so indeed good to have choices.

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Lbdunequest wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 11:37 am
SLiC wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 9:23 am
Lbdunequest wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 8:54 am Nodal is an emulation, because it emulates the ROM :)
It doesn't emulate the ROM, the emulation is of of the Motorola DSP563xx chip that the ROMS ran on, the software is using the manufacturers original ROM, and as its essentially a 'software' synths ruining on hardware (a chip) the sound and operation is 'exactly' the same as the original hardware (other than the IO, most of us will have better IO than these hardware synths had!)
So it is an emulation of a synth in other words right?
Not quite. It's an emulation of the DSP chip the synth uses.

Although I think there are specific things the developer have to do to make the actual synths work with it. No idea about the specifics. And, they have to do the GUI for the specific synth, of course.

Anyway, I won't clutter up this thead with offtopic anymore. This thread should be about Discovery Pro, and nothing else.

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If I'd buy discovery pro after the real Nord 2 emulation, it would have to be on it's own merits. I seem to recall it sounding pretty rad. I'll have to sit down and compare the two.
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Since version 8 was released, was there any discount on the upgrade pricing, as promised by the developer that there would be one? I'm waiting patiently...

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