I thought there was a way to make a new track/generators 'base' their timing on a previous track....

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Hi!

I know I'm not describing this well in the subject line..... :) I recall last month or so, I was noodling around and came across a setting (cant recall whether it was track or generator related... my guess is track) where is was able to conform or at least base the new track note and timing a previous track.

So, I had a cello line which I liked and wanted to add a viola part that meshed well with the cello line. In the past it meant a lot of tweaking and such after the fact as each generator would spit out data without taking any kind of 'song level rhythm's or motifs' into consideration... It always sounded a bit too random without any cohesion.

Well, imagine my surprise when I found a setting that would let the cello track 'influence' the viola track! I haven't had a chance to revisit RC since that time (nor did I save it).... Today I loaded up the latest version and I cant find a setting like that anywhere.

Am I really mis-remembering? I didn't think that was possible in RC at the time, so i was excited to stumble up on it... now I am not sure I wasn't dreaming it. :)

Anyone understand what I am rambling on about? :)

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In general, the topic of the influence of one track on another is very interesting. It can be an influence on the generator of another track, it can be a kind of sidechain in melody, rhythm, etc.

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Interesting indeed! The Orb products (composer and suite) do exactly that. Each bass line , melody etc bases itself on the already present musical data. Sometimes it errs on the side of the ‘lowest common denominator’ so it may produce uninspiring results. :).

I feel like the option to do something similar in RC was right in front of my face…. Maybe it was a copy and paste kinda action? Copy say the violin data from one track to the next and paste to a new one with some variation….

I swear I saw this…. It could have been in standalone mode when I found it…. I was using the vst3 plug-in…. Not sure why there would a difference like that though?

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I think that most of the functions that interest you for changing phrases in accordance with the existing material are done in the RС Midi Mutator), but it is the influence of one track on another that is of great interest to me personally.

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The only thing that I can think of is note forwarding..

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I did something today:

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This is a new rhythm generator that takes notes from another track. It is very powerful if you use the 'rhythm processing' options that lets you slightly change the source rhythm. If you don't want to follow the source rhythm note by note, you can click on "Apply rhythm processing".

At the moment the rhythm is not re-generated if you move the phrase horizontally, I am not sure if that would be the preferred behaviour. I'll upload a new beta version soon.

Thanks,
Attila

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Whoa! Sounds (looks) promising!

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This is a work in progress. The infrastructure is being implemented, so that when the rhythm track changes, the dependent phrases are re-generated (the rhythm only, where possible). The same should happen when a phrase is moved earlier or later.

The next update will feature a new track type, the 'rhythm track', but any other track can be used as the source rhythm.

Thanks,
Attila

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dopet wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:59 pm Whoa! Sounds (looks) promising!
Good news: the latest RapidComposer beta version lets you use the rhythm from another track.

For phrase generators you can select "Follow Track" from the rhythm menu. Use the non-destructive rhythm processing to slightly change the 'source' rhythm, increase or decrease the number of notes (Break Notes, Join Notes), or just slightly offset a few notes. It is possible to 'sample' a few beats or bars from the rhythm track, and use it as repeated.

For normal phrases you can add the new "Rhythm Mapper From Track" variation.

If the rhythm track changes, the rhythm is automatically updated in phrases using the rhythm track.

Let me know if you need the download links for the beta version.

Thanks,
Attila

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Yes please! For the beta links. :)

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musicdevelopments wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:07 pm
dopet wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:59 pm Whoa! Sounds (looks) promising!



Nice to see that added but could you consider adding a similar feature to the idea tool which I've asked for previously quite a few times,

Feature Proposal: Rhythm Latch Functionality for Music Generation Tool

To enhance the music generation experience, I propose the inclusion of a "Latch Rhythm" feature in the idea tool. This functionality would allow users to synchronize multiple channels to follow the same rhythm and melody, which is particularly beneficial for genres like dance music and R&B where bass lines often align closely with chord progressions.

Key Features:
Latch Rhythm Button: A simple toggle button that enables users to select which channels to synchronize with a chosen rhythm.

Channel Syncing: Users can easily choose specific channels (e.g., bass, piano, synth) that will adhere to the same rhythmic pattern, ensuring cohesive track development.

Visual Feedback: Display visual indications when channels are latched, making it clear which elements are synchronized.

Benefits:
Streamlined Workflow: This feature would significantly speed up the composition process by allowing users to maintain consistent rhythms across different tracks.

Enhanced Creativity: By simplifying the synchronization process, users can focus more on creativity and less on manual adjustments.

Improved Genre Adaptability: This functionality would be especially useful for genres where rhythmic consistency is key, :tu:

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