KVR Audio

Stirner · Post by **Stirner** » Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:48 pm

How can Massive X be "complicated to use"? It's powerful, but not too complex, especially if you use the default routing setup - two oscillators and one filter, very straightforward modulation, not many exotic features. But maybe I use it for so long, that I don't see the problems with it anymore.

audiouser720 · Post by **audiouser720** » Sun Nov 17, 2024 2:18 pm

What’s everyone’s favourite filter in Massive X. I like the default one but Svf is also really good for poly. Does it mean to emulate SEM?

yoursoul · Post by **yoursoul** » Sun Nov 17, 2024 2:25 pm

my least favorite filter is the one that filters out all users who want to control massives parameters via scrollwheel..

nanostream · Post by **nanostream** » Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:44 am

Added in 1.5.4: User defined tags can now be added to presets

dannyhawaii · Post by **dannyhawaii** » Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:55 am

I think you meant 1.4.5. I got a bit excited there for a second.

_leras · Post by **_leras** » Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:57 am

Stirner wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:48 pm How can Massive X be "complicated to use"? It's powerful, but not too complex, especially if you use the default routing setup - two oscillators and one filter, very straightforward modulation, not many exotic features. But maybe I use it for so long, that I don't see the problems with it anymore.

Even with the default routing it is more complex than say the OG Massive.

The macros, steps etc are not as simple as in massive, to setup and program.

The oscillators are also very deep and have a lot of non obvious controls. These definitely need a bit of reading the manual to fully get your head around.

Also 'simple' things like unison are also not as intuitive as they could be.

That said, yes if creating from scratch or deep diving, it can be complicated. But if just wanting to tweak presets or otherwise keep it simple, yes the UI is fairly straightforward for most basic things.

nanostream · Post by **nanostream** » Tue Dec 17, 2024 9:49 am

dannyhawaii wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:55 am I think you meant 1.4.5. I got a bit excited there for a second.

Ah right, it was a bit late when I posted

LoveEnigma18 · Post by **LoveEnigma18** » Tue Dec 17, 2024 10:02 am

But we probably need a 1.5.4 update already if not higher.

A significant update is due next year as per NI forums.

liv · Post by **liv** » Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:04 pm

nanostream wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:44 am Added in 1.5.4: User defined tags can now be added to presets

This can be a milestone. Lets see.

LoveEnigma18 · Post by **LoveEnigma18** » Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:41 pm

Massive on the other hand has got a scalable user interface, which is quite appreciated. It looks the GUI gets blurry with bigger size, though.

Both are now Sequoia compatible, but I think there was no problem with it anyway.

Gam456 · Post by **Gam456** » Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:21 am

Daru925 · Post by **Daru925** » Thu Dec 19, 2024 12:32 am

They managed to make the update worse lol
Now it takes 10 seconds for the first instance to load, and 4 seconds to display/load each subsequent instances, everytime i switch. (in ableton)
Last patch it was less than a second for me^^

seangm · Post by **seangm** » Thu Dec 19, 2024 12:56 am

Daru925 wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2024 12:32 am They managed to make the update worse lol
Now it takes 10 seconds for the first instance to load, and 4 seconds to display/load each subsequent instances, everytime i switch. (in ableton)
Last patch it was less than a second for me^^

Thanks for mentioning that, hadn't installed the update yet and will skip it now.

jules99 · Post by **jules99** » Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:56 am

I'm not going to necro some age-old thread on the OG Massive, but this was a pleasant, unexpected surprise on the 1.7.0 update:

jules99 · Post by **jules99** » Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:58 am

jules99 wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:56 am I'm not going to necro some age-old thread on the OG Massive, but this was a pleasant, unexpected surprise on the 1.7.0 update:

Massive X 1.6.1 update (September 2025)!