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fisherKing wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:10 pm
vitocorleone123 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:32 pm
Ploki wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:38 pm now imagine a fabfilter channel strip
Meh. No thanks.
because? just seems if you're gonna take the time to post, you could say something useful...
Back at ya. You didn't even express an opinion about a channel strip, just took the time to question someone else's and added an insult as well. Cheers.
Last edited by vitocorleone123 on Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:11 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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Ploki wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 5:36 pm
vitocorleone123 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:32 pm
Ploki wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:38 pm now imagine a fabfilter channel strip
Meh. No thanks.
Blasphemy

I would unironically love it.
Along with macro control from creative fx. Sheeesh
That's fair.

What makes a channel strip so special for you vs, say, just having an EQ, compressor, and gate plugin open at the same time on the same screen?

I've purchased and since deleted multiple channel strips, preferring to mix and match the plugins I want how I want in the order I want.

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dastewart wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 9:52 am Fabfilter absolutely nailed it with Pro Q3
I thought the same about Pro-Q 1 ...
and then again about Pro-Q 2 ...
followed by Pro-Q 3 (still felt the same way).

Pro-Q 4 is a bit different for me however. As I feel FabFilter really went above and beyond, what I would have expected from them with this latest update.

Before this release, I would use v3 on many, if not most Mixer tracks.

Now I find, that I'm using v4 on pretty much every track ... the new Instance List workflow, practically invites it.

And where I would previously sometimes still use a stock EQ for basic mixing, now I'm just putting Pro-Q 4 on those instead. It's just all-round easier this way, imho. And I don't think I'll revert back to using other EQ's either for the foreseeable.

Pro-Q 3 was already my most-used plugin. Pro-Q 4 is likely going to be used twice as frequently as v3 for most of my projects.

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vitocorleone123 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:10 pm
Ploki wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 5:36 pm
vitocorleone123 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:32 pm
Ploki wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:38 pm now imagine a fabfilter channel strip
Meh. No thanks.
Blasphemy

I would unironically love it.
Along with macro control from creative fx. Sheeesh
That's fair.

What makes a channel strip so special for you vs, say, just having an EQ, compressor, and gate plugin open at the same time on the same screen?

I've purchased and since deleted multiple channel strips, preferring to mix and match the plugins I want how I want in the order I want.
Macro control mostly for automation. It’s a pain in the ass to setup on logic because it’s channel strip level.

I hate channel strips generally and rarely use them. But i start many tracks with some combination of fabfilter plugs to prep the track, so this would probably speed up my workflow
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Ploki wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:38 pm now imagine a fabfilter channel strip
i'd love to have it! the MH Channel Strip but with FF plugins... a man can dream

and to those on the fence, yes, to me also the instance list alone makes the upgrade worth it

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MrJubbly wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:31 pm ---snip---

Now I find, that I'm using v4 on pretty much every track ... the new Instance List workflow, practically invites it.

And where I would previously sometimes still use a stock EQ for basic mixing, now I'm just putting Pro-Q 4 on those instead. It's just all-round easier this way, imho. And I don't think I'll revert back to using other EQ's either for the foreseeable.

Pro-Q 3 was already my most-used plugin. Pro-Q 4 is likely going to be used twice as frequently as v3 for most of my projects. 
Hmmm...okay, maybe I should download the demo and see if it convinces me. I guess there's no substitute for taking it for a test drive so thanks for the push.

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vitocorleone123 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:07 pm
fisherKing wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:10 pm
vitocorleone123 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:32 pm
Ploki wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:38 pm now imagine a fabfilter channel strip
Meh. No thanks.
because? just seems if you're gonna take the time to post, you could say something useful...
Back at ya. You didn't even express an opinion about a channel strip, just took the time to question someone else's and added an insult as well. Cheers.
if you see it that way, so it goes. but expressing an opinion has value, saying nothing is worth... nothing.

meanwhile, back on topic: been using Q4 everywhere (even replacing Q3 instances), and it's awesome....
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dastewart wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 10:35 pm
MrJubbly wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:31 pm ---snip---

Now I find, that I'm using v4 on pretty much every track ... the new Instance List workflow, practically invites it.

And where I would previously sometimes still use a stock EQ for basic mixing, now I'm just putting Pro-Q 4 on those instead. It's just all-round easier this way, imho. And I don't think I'll revert back to using other EQ's either for the foreseeable.

Pro-Q 3 was already my most-used plugin. Pro-Q 4 is likely going to be used twice as frequently as v3 for most of my projects. 
Hmmm...okay, maybe I should download the demo and see if it convinces me. I guess there's no substitute for taking it for a test drive so thanks for the push.
I found some time this afternoon to do just that and .... I think I may be convinced. Funnily enough it wasn't the instance view (although I think that's going to be handy) but the spectral stuff. Sometimes I use a fixed eq, sometimes a dynamic and sometimes spectral. And often I'm not sure which I want until I hear how it sounds. So, bleeding obvious but it's very handy to have all of that in one plugin and all with the excellent Fabfilter workflow so I can just flick between them and decide what I prefer.

Wish I'd know about this before I shelled out for Speccraft a couple of weeks back :roll:

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fisherKing wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 10:58 pm
vitocorleone123 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:07 pm
fisherKing wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:10 pm
vitocorleone123 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:32 pm
Ploki wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:38 pm now imagine a fabfilter channel strip
Meh. No thanks.
because? just seems if you're gonna take the time to post, you could say something useful...
Back at ya. You didn't even express an opinion about a channel strip, just took the time to question someone else's and added an insult as well. Cheers.
if you see it that way, so it goes. but expressing an opinion has value, saying nothing is worth... nothing.

meanwhile, back on topic: been using Q4 everywhere (even replacing Q3 instances), and it's awesome....
I would like to bring in a thought about the term "channel strip": I have been using Pro-Q 3 a lot through out my mixing, and just recently started to use the Fabfiler plugins together with a Softube Console 1 (first version), which brings in the possibility of manipulating it with hardware ...

so that´s one (other) view of "channel strip" - connecting software with controller inputs -

- then I do like the way of a "modular channel strip", that´s given by the Softube Console 1 software...

now I am wandering about a possible development of a Fabfilter "list view", that would/could not only include Pro-Q 4 instances, but also other Fabfilter plugins like Pro-MB, Pro-C, Pro-L, ...
and whether an accessibility of all those Fabfilter plugins throughout some `shared´ "list view" would bring something of "value" for production ?
(all this of course not knowing which way Fabfilter development will go ...)

ps: I am not so sure about a "fixed" channel strip (at least for my usage ...)

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dastewart wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 7:22 pm I found some time this afternoon to do just that and .... I think I may be convinced. Funnily enough it wasn't the instance view (although I think that's going to be handy) but the spectral stuff. Sometimes I use a fixed eq, sometimes a dynamic and sometimes spectral. And often I'm not sure which I want until I hear how it sounds. So, bleeding obvious but it's very handy to have all of that in one plugin and all with the excellent Fabfilter workflow so I can just flick between them and decide what I prefer.

Wish I'd know about this before I shelled out for Speccraft a couple of weeks back :roll:
For me, it was both the Spectral Dynamics and also the Instance List workflow. Initially what grabbed me was being able, as you say, to quickly use the Spectral Dynamics within the same EQ plugin.

But once I started taking more advantage of the Collision Detection feature within the Instance Lists view. It just made sense to use more Pro-Q 4 instances on all other mixer tracks also. The Instance Lists view makes the feature so much more accessible and efficient than in Pro-Q 3.

Have you watched on Fabfilter's YouTube channel yet? It's awesome.

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MrJubbly wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:25 pm
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Have you watched on Fabfilter's YouTube channel yet? It's awesome.
What?! How can you ask that? I watch Dan Worrall's videos even for stuff that I'm not interested in :wink:

Yes, perhaps the instance list will prove worthwhile but I'm normally only eq'ing one or two tracks at a time so I'm not sure. But having all the various eq things in one plugin just makes so much sense. And I'm sure there's a debate about multi-band compression - do you need Pro MB (or similar) now that there's so much flexibility in Pro Q4?

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dastewart wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:12 pm do you need Pro MB (or similar) now that there's so much flexibility in Pro Q4?
That's actually a very good question.
Pro MB still has a little bit more flexibility with features like lookahead and the knee of the compression.... But for sidechain compression which is most of my usage, I believe both tools are difficult to separate...
That being said, even saturn 2 can do quite good band sidechain compression as you may know from Dan....

Pro MB has some nice ready made presets.

With the list view of Q4, I guess I will certainly use proq4 more and more and pro mb less and less...

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