Fuse Audio Labs releases the OCELOT True Peak Limiter with Intro Offer
- KVRAF
- 6280 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
My issue is that Fuse is using an ecomm provider that is adding 6% to the price for no good reason. It's not tax, that also gets added, this is just a... fee. I get no value for it. I have many Fuse plugins but I have let them know I will no longer be a customer if they insist on using this kind of ecomm provider. It might be convenient for them but it ends up costing me more. Also it forces the currency of payment which prevents me from using a USD paypal balance. Forget that sht! Not interested.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 249 posts since 13 Jan, 2018 from Duesseldorf, Germany
Hi plexuss,plexuss wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 5:47 pm My issue is that Fuse is using an ecomm provider that is adding 6% to the price for no good reason. It's not tax, that also gets added, this is just a... fee. I get no value for it. I have many Fuse plugins but I have let them know I will no longer be a customer if they insist on using this kind of ecomm provider. It might be convenient for them but it ends up costing me more. Also it forces the currency of payment which prevents me from using a USD paypal balance. Forget that sht! Not interested.
Thanks for your message and sorry for the inconvenience.
We were recently forced to switch the MoR after our former provider stopped paying out - since July to be precise (multiple vendors are affected and a lot of revenue went down the drain, there’s a lengthy thread about this misery here in the DSP Development forum). There simply aren’t that many options, especially for small businesses. So unfortunately, we aren’t planning to switch providers any time soon.
You can also buy our stuff via Plugin Boutique. Perhaps that’s an option?
Best,
Ray
- KVRAF
- 6280 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
Ray, thanks for the idea/option of PB. That would work. Their ecomm doesnt add any extra fees and will allow the use of USD transactions. thanks for the option!fuseaudiolabs wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 7:29 pmYou can also buy our stuff via Plugin Boutique. Perhaps that’s an option?plexuss wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 5:47 pm My issue is that Fuse is using an ecomm provider that is adding 6% to the price for no good reason. It's not tax, that also gets added, this is just a... fee. I get no value for it. I have many Fuse plugins but I have let them know I will no longer be a customer if they insist on using this kind of ecomm provider. It might be convenient for them but it ends up costing me more. Also it forces the currency of payment which prevents me from using a USD paypal balance. Forget that sht! Not interested.
Best, Ray
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- KVRist
- 489 posts since 30 Jan, 2015
Crashing Ableton instantly on instantiation. It did allow me to enter my code but crashed as soon as I moved the mouse. Now can't even open it. VST3 Mac Sequoia. Is there anywhere to send the crash report to?
Edit: shut down my computer and restarted and it seems fine. Unusual to have to do this though?
Edit: shut down my computer and restarted and it seems fine. Unusual to have to do this though?
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 249 posts since 13 Jan, 2018 from Duesseldorf, Germany
Hi Rickskii,
Also can you check whether this also happens in AU and/or VST2.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Best,
Ray
Thanks for the report and obviously this shouldn't happen. Can you try de-activating the plugin via the burger menu in the plugin GUI and repeat the activation process and send us the crash log in case this happens again?Rickskii wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:06 pm Crashing Ableton instantly on instantiation. It did allow me to enter my code but crashed as soon as I moved the mouse. Now can't even open it. VST3 Mac Sequoia. Is there anywhere to send the crash report to?
Edit: shut down my computer and restarted and it seems fine. Unusual to have to do this though?
Also can you check whether this also happens in AU and/or VST2.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Best,
Ray
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- KVRer
- 7 posts since 27 Sep, 2021
I can confirm that I have the same issue with VST3 in Ableton. Ocelot crashes as soon as it's loaded up. VST2 version seems to be more stable but I tend to work using only VST3 plugins where possible so would prefer a stable version. Running on Macbook Pro M1 OSX 14.4.1
Currently I am only running the demo and would purchase if stability issues could be resolved.
Currently I am only running the demo and would purchase if stability issues could be resolved.
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 249 posts since 13 Jan, 2018 from Duesseldorf, Germany
Hi Proper Lo-Fi,
Sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for your understanding.
Best,
Ray
We're still investigating and, of course, will provide a bugfix ASAP. It seems to be related to the way that latency reporting/polling is handled by Live. For now using VST2 or AU should be fine as a workaround because they don't seem to be affected from the same issue.Proper Lo-Fi wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2024 11:57 am I can confirm that I have the same issue with VST3 in Ableton. Ocelot crashes as soon as it's loaded up. VST2 version seems to be more stable but I tend to work using only VST3 plugins where possible so would prefer a stable version. Running on Macbook Pro M1 OSX 14.4.1
Currently I am only running the demo and would purchase if stability issues could be resolved.
Sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for your understanding.
Best,
Ray
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- KVRAF
- 2049 posts since 13 May, 2004 from Germany
The gui is flickering on Cubase 11,Windows 10.
Otherwise I don't understand the hype at all.
Here it distorts and pumps much much earlier than Barricade 4.
Otherwise I don't understand the hype at all.
Here it distorts and pumps much much earlier than Barricade 4.
- KVRAF
- 11380 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
I had the fortune of beta testing this plugin from the very start and I can not put into words just how much criticism and down right "hard truths" we piled on poor Reimund during the beta! The amount of improvements he made to the limiter over the course of quite a few months is incredibly impressive!
I can from first hand experience say that what he pulled off here is nothing short of magnificent! It is incredibly difficult to create a good brickwall limiter algorithm that works on a multitude of audio sources. That undertaking is not for the timid!
This is such a good limiter plugin now that it can happily compete with the best out there. It's main strengths lie within the first few dB of final limiting, keeping the source as sonically transparent as possible. It doesn't do ultra-super-mega loud but those are rather specialty cases anyhow and require some other trickery and some massive compromises! You can sacrifice tonality and harmonic coherence for loudness, or you can stick to the purest possible outcome and sacrifice ultimate loudness, and I feel like Ocelot Limiter has very nicely balanced the latter.
So in short: This thing is fantastic and very much worth checking out! It's also worth noting how low of a latency this plugin has. It works perfectly as a limiter in live playing situations. Considering just how well it performs at these very low latency values is an amazing feature and should not be taken for granted!
I can from first hand experience say that what he pulled off here is nothing short of magnificent! It is incredibly difficult to create a good brickwall limiter algorithm that works on a multitude of audio sources. That undertaking is not for the timid!
This is such a good limiter plugin now that it can happily compete with the best out there. It's main strengths lie within the first few dB of final limiting, keeping the source as sonically transparent as possible. It doesn't do ultra-super-mega loud but those are rather specialty cases anyhow and require some other trickery and some massive compromises! You can sacrifice tonality and harmonic coherence for loudness, or you can stick to the purest possible outcome and sacrifice ultimate loudness, and I feel like Ocelot Limiter has very nicely balanced the latter.
So in short: This thing is fantastic and very much worth checking out! It's also worth noting how low of a latency this plugin has. It works perfectly as a limiter in live playing situations. Considering just how well it performs at these very low latency values is an amazing feature and should not be taken for granted!
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 249 posts since 13 Jan, 2018 from Duesseldorf, Germany
Thanks for the kind words, Niklas. It really means a lot, especially from someone who's so knowledgable when it comes to limiting!
I pointed this out to Marc over at GS already: The idea with the OCELOT Limiter was to strike a good balance between usability / low CPU and latency / signal integrity. I'll let you guys be the judge whether the mission was accomplished, but I can assure you that we DID walk the extra mile with this one.
I pointed this out to Marc over at GS already: The idea with the OCELOT Limiter was to strike a good balance between usability / low CPU and latency / signal integrity. I'll let you guys be the judge whether the mission was accomplished, but I can assure you that we DID walk the extra mile with this one.
bmanic wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 5:57 am I had the fortune of beta testing this plugin from the very start and I can not put into words just how much criticism and down right "hard truths" we piled on poor Reimund during the beta! The amount of improvements he made to the limiter over the course of quite a few months is incredibly impressive!
I can from first hand experience say that what he pulled off here is nothing short of magnificent! It is incredibly difficult to create a good brickwall limiter algorithm that works on a multitude of audio sources. That undertaking is not for the timid!
This is such a good limiter plugin now that it can happily compete with the best out there. It's main strengths lie within the first few dB of final limiting, keeping the source as sonically transparent as possible. It doesn't do ultra-super-mega loud but those are rather specialty cases anyhow and require some other trickery and some massive compromises! You can sacrifice tonality and harmonic coherence for loudness, or you can stick to the purest possible outcome and sacrifice ultimate loudness, and I feel like Ocelot Limiter has very nicely balanced the latter.
So in short: This thing is fantastic and very much worth checking out! It's also worth noting how low of a latency this plugin has. It works perfectly as a limiter in live playing situations. Considering just how well it performs at these very low latency values is an amazing feature and should not be taken for granted!
- KVRian
- 598 posts since 1 Jan, 2021
Human natural behaviour - always complaining.
I like this limiter a lot. Still not sure if I need it in my folder, but it is really easy to use and has low CPU usage.
I like this limiter a lot. Still not sure if I need it in my folder, but it is really easy to use and has low CPU usage.
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- KVRAF
- 4250 posts since 1 Sep, 2016
I always disregard the opinions of beta testers as they have a vested interest in being nice. Many times I've read a glowing tribute to a plugin, and somewhere in there are the words "I happened to beta test for this" and I think ahh, there it is.
But in the opinion of this random dude (always the most reliable source of opinion on the internet), Ocelot is a decent limiter. I agree that it's not going to be the one you reach for when you want maximum loudness. It's less kind to transients than my other limiters. With its low latency I would probably use it more as a track limiter than as a loudenator on the master, but loudness should mostly be in the mix anyway.
I don't like that SHIFT is used both for fine control and to link the input & ceiling controls. It means I can't use fine control for the only thing I'd actually want to use it for.
But in the opinion of this random dude (always the most reliable source of opinion on the internet), Ocelot is a decent limiter. I agree that it's not going to be the one you reach for when you want maximum loudness. It's less kind to transients than my other limiters. With its low latency I would probably use it more as a track limiter than as a loudenator on the master, but loudness should mostly be in the mix anyway.
I don't like that SHIFT is used both for fine control and to link the input & ceiling controls. It means I can't use fine control for the only thing I'd actually want to use it for.
- KVRAF
- 1649 posts since 18 Feb, 2005 from Serbia
As a beta tester this is one of rare occasions I was really excited about a plugin release. That is why you don't see me raving about every plugin I have been testing out. IMHO Ocelot really deserves to be spoken about.Vortifex wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 1:01 pm I always disregard the opinions of beta testers as they have a vested interest in being nice. Many times I've read a glowing tribute to a plugin, and somewhere in there are the words "I happened to beta test for this" and I think ahh, there it is.
But in the opinion of this random dude (always the most reliable source of opinion on the internet), Ocelot is a decent limiter. I agree that it's not going to be the one you reach for when you want maximum loudness. It's less kind to transients than my other limiters. With its low latency I would probably use it more as a track limiter than as a loudenator on the master, but loudness should mostly be in the mix anyway.
I don't like that SHIFT is used both for fine control and to link the input & ceiling controls. It means I can't use fine control for the only thing I'd actually want to use it for.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 249 posts since 13 Jan, 2018 from Duesseldorf, Germany
V1.0.1 BUGFIX UPDATE
Everyone that was running into crashes / stability issues in Ableton Live VST3: Please go here to download the v1.0.1 build.
Everyone that was running into crashes / stability issues in Ableton Live VST3: Please go here to download the v1.0.1 build.
