Why is modern music so awful
- KVRAF
- 3812 posts since 20 Apr, 2005
Music today is youthful because it is made for youthful people by youthful people.jamcat wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2024 2:24 am Music today is awful because it is made for awful people by awful people.
Music today is creative because it is made for creative people by creative people.
etc
- KVRAF
- 10128 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
So not creative
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- KVRAF
- 1791 posts since 17 Sep, 2002
nevermind 
- addled muppet weed
- 111242 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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- KVRAF
- 37261 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
- KVRian
- 991 posts since 24 May, 2024
I've noticed that even SoundCloud won't even recommend me any good new genres nor tunes.
I take a peek at some of the recommendations, and it's always trashy junk that you couldn't pay me to listen to.
I take a peek at some of the recommendations, and it's always trashy junk that you couldn't pay me to listen to.
- KVRAF
- 7651 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
So what you're saying is enjoyment of contemporary music comes not from any objective musical qualities, but rather from the listener partaking in a shared generational experience with their peers?
Interesting take, and probably true. It should be noted that it's in sharp contrast to something like classical music, which can be enjoyed by anyone of any generation, despite the fact that they weren't alive 250 years ago.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
- KVRAF
- 7651 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
I think it's shit because no one can do music now.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
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- KVRAF
- 7102 posts since 23 Nov, 2016 from a small city
It's less old chronologically, and more old in the sense of staid.jamcat wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:48 pmSo what you're saying is enjoyment of contemporary music comes not from any objective musical qualities, but rather from the listener partaking in a shared generational experience with their peers?
Interesting take, and probably true. It should be noted that it's in sharp contrast to something like classical music, which can be enjoyed by anyone of any generation, despite the fact that they weren't alive 250 years ago.
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
When I was young I was very definitely not marketed to "overwhelmingly" and I have remained out of step with that whole trip.Stanklydankly wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 2:08 pm I think this is a symptom of aging more then anything. Stuff stops being made for you in the overwhelming manner everything is marketed straight at you when you're young.
Was Blood Sweat and Tears' second album (reached number one iirc) marketed more to me at age 12 or to my father? Turned me onto Erik Satie for the first time, and to Laura Nyro. Then after they got back to the states after being blackmailed by the Nixon Administration's State Dept to tour behind the Iron Curtain they fell out of favor with the hippies in a big way; and subsequently went kind of avant-garde and never sold like that again.
The video in the OP regards chart music specifically and is actually dealing pretty objectively, but it doesn't look like that's even the topic here.
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- KVRAF
- 7981 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
A strong argument can be made that Jazz and Classical are timeless because it's about the most extreme depths you can take western music to. A strong argument can be made that neither really speak to the common man, it's just elitist wankery.jamcat wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:48 pmSo what you're saying is enjoyment of contemporary music comes not from any objective musical qualities, but rather from the listener partaking in a shared generational experience with their peers?
Interesting take, and probably true. It should be noted that it's in sharp contrast to something like classical music, which can be enjoyed by anyone of any generation, despite the fact that they weren't alive 250 years ago.
Pop or folk music being every other form of music, is always beholden to the tropes a generation perceives as "real", and after time, most of it gets washed away in the sands of fad. You get your Chuck Berry's, Beatles, Zeppelin, Nirvana, etc. that end up surviving, but even then I would argue those aren't the "best", just what survived as the epitome of an era.
More or less I'm saying I love music but if you take this whole thing too seriously you're going to lose your mind defending ghosts and shadows.
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
I don't think "the common man" is an actual thing. OTOH conformity is a real thing, ie., people afraid to individuate themselves much from the crowd. 
"A strong argument can be made that..." meh
I maybe shoulda not had that second cuppa today
- what, other people's opinions?[to] take this whole thing too seriously
"A strong argument can be made that..." meh
I maybe shoulda not had that second cuppa today