DSP563xx Emulator (Access Virus, Nord Lead, Waldorf MW...)
- KVRAF
- 37389 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Nodal was released? It's not in the downloads section though
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- KVRAF
- 12084 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Novation SuperNova II next maybe?
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- KVRAF
- 20696 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
- KVRAF
- 20696 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Yes, the FAQ says SuperNova II is in development and Nord Lead 3, Q, SuperNova, and Nova are being researched.
- KVRAF
- 14103 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
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- KVRAF
- 2202 posts since 16 Apr, 2004 from between my ears
hit it and quit.
- KVRian
- 1235 posts since 17 Feb, 2010
A question for the authors of this amazing project :
how difficoult would it be to adapt the current DSP563xx emulator core to takle the DSPB56371 coprocessor (a direct derivation of it), used - for example - in the Blofeld desktop synthesizer ?
Are there big differences between the two coprocessors?
how difficoult would it be to adapt the current DSP563xx emulator core to takle the DSPB56371 coprocessor (a direct derivation of it), used - for example - in the Blofeld desktop synthesizer ?
Are there big differences between the two coprocessors?
- KVRAF
- 20696 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
They said on the Discord that it's not possible.
- KVRian
- 1235 posts since 17 Feb, 2010
Are there technical difficulties in doing that or is it just a matter of Freescale patents infringments?
Any specific infos from the authors would be welcome - also just to learn more about this interesting topic.
Any specific infos from the authors would be welcome - also just to learn more about this interesting topic.
- KVRAF
- 20696 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
I don’t remember them mentioning Freescale. In any case, I doubt they’re interested in researching Blofeld since it’s a current product. That goes against the spirit of the project.
- KVRian
- 1235 posts since 17 Feb, 2010
Ah ok, maybe they don't want to have "troubles" emulating not-adbandoned-yet devices. I mentioned Blofeld just as an example.
From a technical viewpoint, it would be interesting to know from them if there are big differences between the DSP563xx family and the DSPB56371 on the emulation core side. Maybe it's just about an increased clock rate (180 MHz).
Better asking here than on the Discord servers - sorry, but I find the Discord access too much "complicated".
From a technical viewpoint, it would be interesting to know from them if there are big differences between the DSP563xx family and the DSPB56371 on the emulation core side. Maybe it's just about an increased clock rate (180 MHz).
Better asking here than on the Discord servers - sorry, but I find the Discord access too much "complicated".
- KVRAF
- 20696 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
They still have quite a few DSP563xx synths to do. Maybe after they've exhausted those, they'll turn their attention to emulating other DSP's. I imagine that the one they decide to do next will depend on how many synths used it and how much work it will be to do it. Did any other synths use the DSPB56371?xhunaudio wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:14 pm Ah ok, maybe they don't want to have "troubles" emulating not-adbandoned-yet devices. I mentioned Blofeld just as an example.
From a technical viewpoint, it would be interesting to know from them if there are big differences between the DSP563xx family and the DSPB56371 on the emulation core side. Maybe it's just about an increased clock rate (180 MHz).
Better asking here than on the Discord servers - sorry, but I find the Discord access too much "complicated".
- KVRian
- 1235 posts since 17 Feb, 2010
Sure - this project is so amazing and interesting - I hope after the DSP563xx family there will be a chance to see a DSPB56371 emulation too. Again, I'm incredibly fashinated about the low level working of all this. There's also several other DSPs and coprocessors emulations in general that are currently being completed inside the MAME project too. Maybe The Usual Suspects could take inspiration from there, too - for future projects.Uncle E wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:12 pm They still have quite a few DSP563xx synths to do. Maybe after they've exhausted those, they'll turn their attention to emulating other DSP's. I imagine that the one they decide to do next will depend on how many synths used it and how much work it will be to do it. Did any other synths use the DSPB56371?
The DSPB56371 was used in Blofeld and in (at least one) digital audio console prototype, together with the MCF51JM128 microcontroller. I don't think there were other devices using it, since the DSPB56371 coprocessor was released in a time when the "Microcontroller-DSP-RAM-ROM heterogeneous architecture" was completely adbandoned (from several years, effectively) in favor to the "SOCs" System-On-Chip architecture (as seen in recent hardware synthesizers) - which has a lot of advantages, like native "floating point processing" capabilities and the ability to reuse the same code on Native x86-64 DAW-based plugins without big modifications, thanks to the adoption of modern ISAs instead of obscure "hardware-specific" DSP instructions.
- KVRAF
- 20696 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
In that case, my sense from the Discord and from personally knowing one of The Usual Suspects for many years is that they wouldn't be interested in taking it on.xhunaudio wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 7:44 pm The DSPB56371 was used in Blofeld and in (at least one) digital audio console prototype, together with the MCF51JM128 microcontroller.

