Sufficient memory?

[uOpt]

24 GB are probably sufficient from what you say.

The only way to find out for sure is a good return policy. Buy the smallest you are considering and send it back if it falls over in your stress testing. If you are in the US then Amazon currently has a return window until Jan 31.

[parma]

Not that anyone really cares, but I've ordered it and went with 48GB. This way I don't ever have to think about memory.

[mjolnir]

i think you'll be okay. 48 GiB is a lot if you're frugal.
I have a wimpy computer that I upgraded from 4 GiB to 16 GiB and I'm able to use RAM disk functions now and stuff like that without any problems.
I can barely even imagine what 48 GiB of RAM would be like.

[jancivil]

More is expensive and most times not needed.
8 gb memory fits hours & hours of samples. To create a 2:30 song?

I have 8GB of 'unified memory' which is kind of more than 8GB normally is.
One day I saw Auddict promoting a contrabass flute. I didn't even know there was such a thing. No one makes it I know of, and it wasn't expensive, the demo sounded fantastic so I bit.
Loaded it up in VE Pro and now I was out of memory. If I loaded one more thing there is no music making to be done.

[uOpt]

I have 8GB of 'unified memory' which is kind of more than 8GB normally is.

Errr. No.

Actually it is even less since you need to subtract the memory used as video memory.

[Scotty]

Apple promoted it that way so you can't blame people for having the misperception.

I have 8GB of 'unified memory' which is kind of more than 8GB normally is.

Errr. No.

Actually it is even less since you need to subtract the memory used as video memory.

[jancivil]

Apple's, or Apple's marketing's reasoning anyway, is based in all the RAM accessed by all cores, CPU, GPU... So it's supposed as more efficient. When a core finishes its processing, it "notifies the next core it may now pick up the data directly without waiting for that to get transferred across all the various busses because the data is already there in memory."

Subjectively my little dinky computer is quite a bit faster than my i9 Intel MBP (64GB). I can push the current thing right to the edge of "8 GB", but I was not getting comparatively close to the edge with that 64GB, it would tend to crash; and I was using purge memory pretty often. If I got so close it could crash.

I have enough experience with an 8GB MBP, too, and I'm reasonably sure I can load noticeably more now. I'm going with experience whether or not a literal more can be boiled down like that's that.

[uOpt]

Apple's, or Apple's marketing's reasoning anyway, is based in all the RAM accessed by all cores, CPU, GPU... So it's supposed as more efficient. When a core finishes its processing, it "notifies the next core it may now pick up the data directly without waiting for that to get transferred across all the various busses because the data is already there in memory."

That's gibberish. The only thing that can be skipped is CPU to GPU memory transfer. Nothing special about CPU core to CPU core.

Subjectively my little dinky computer is quite a bit faster than my i9 Intel MBP (64GB). I can push the current thing right to the edge of "8 GB", but I was not getting comparatively close to the edge with that 64GB, it would tend to crash; and I was using purge memory pretty often. If I got so close it could crash.

I have enough experience with an 8GB MBP, too, and I'm reasonably sure I can load noticeably more now. I'm going with experience whether or not a literal more can be boiled down like that's that.

That's because paging to the internal SSD is very fast. That hides lack-of-RAM problems.

It has nothing to do with the RAM itself.

These are really good computers but claims of superior memory capacity performance (or whatever you want to call it) are nonsense.

[harryupbabble]

my windows xp computers...
it's like they have alzheimer's
well, it's kinda true
still, they are functional

[foosnark]

I have 16GB of RAM on a Windows machine (and a GPU with 8GB) and it's never been a problem. But then I hardly ever use sample libraries...

[harryupbabble]

if i had the cash, i'd use sample libraries
well, only if the sample company is really good

i'd get me some peter hook bass sample libraries
and jimmy page guitar sample libraries
and all the great drummers sample libraries
and maybe some giorgio moroder synth sample libraries

i mean, it's less clutter to do that compared to acquiring all their gear?