XILS Lab CS-80!!!!!!

[hey212]

[vurt]

fear of wood
like the og green lantern.

[kraster]

.. so when is this coming out? Not sure what is going on with XLIS Lab but to my ears they sound quite unique. I have the Poly KB3 and it's rather unique, though quite frustrating to use and a lot of "clunky" bullshit with the Ui. Still, I'm willing to suffer through some of that crap due to the unique sound/tonality it has.

The whole UI thing is my worry with any Xils product.

I think their DSP is among the best but the flaky and weird UIs is really offputting.

The XILS 4 EMS synth feels like it's held together with virtual sticky tape

And on top of that the CS80 is a challenging synth to reimagine in the software world.

Arturia's and Cherry Audio's versions are overwhelming and fiddly.

I think Softube's Model 77 has the best CS80 UI of all the current emulations.

[Krakatau]

Today I learned "Xils-lab" is pronounced Kzils and not Eksils
Anyone else

They are french

en effet !

[db3]

.. so when is this coming out? Not sure what is going on with XLIS Lab but to my ears they sound quite unique. I have the Poly KB3 and it's rather unique, though quite frustrating to use and a lot of "clunky" bullshit with the Ui. Still, I'm willing to suffer through some of that crap due to the unique sound/tonality it has.

The whole UI thing is my worry with any Xils product.
I think their DSP is among the best but the flaky and weird UIs is really offputting.
The XILS 4 EMS synth feels like it's held together with virtual sticky tape
And on top of that the CS80 is a challenging synth to reimagine in the software world.
Arturia's and Cherry Audio's versions are overwhelming and fiddly.
I think Softube's Model 77 has the best CS80 UI of all the current emulations.

100%. A modern UI designer could be transformative to the business.

[vertibration]

UI is everything. Synth devs are pretty much there as far as comparison to hardware sound wise, so the UI has to be spot on. Softube has an amazing UI for their version. Xils UI looks extremely annoying. I don't care how good it sounds, it ain't sounding overwhelmingly better than Softube for damn sure

[Gam456]

UI is everything. Synth devs are pretty much there as far as comparison to hardware sound wise, so the UI has to be spot on. Softube has an amazing UI for their version. Xils UI looks extremely annoying. I don't care how good it sounds, it ain't sounding overwhelmingly better than Softube for damn sure

Softube suck with the setting section an browser on 4k monitors
Modular is useless.

[Introspective]

Guys (assuming XILS is reading this), with TOTAL respect and nothing but love:

...I suggest you take that intro video down. It's ... just not at all professionally done, and makes the product (and the company) seem like a joke.

Seriously: you would be better off just having a screencap with someone playing the presets and no commentary. This video is bad. Bad, bad. Bad "acting," bad props, bad copy, bad effects. It is easily the worst product marketing video I've ever seen, like some high school kid slapped together some creative commons licensed video snippets and called it a day.

Sorry, guys. I love your products; I own and use several of them with fondness. ...but this is really amateurish.

My two cents, anyway. I really don't mean to offend, and will happily remove this comment once the video is replaced. :\

[machinesworking]

UI is everything. Synth devs are pretty much there as far as comparison to hardware sound wise, so the UI has to be spot on.

All I want is a built in by type browser with single arrow or similar shortcut key preset changing. Throw in Program Change capability and an eight or sixteen part Macro section for mapping to cc or track/program automation. Make your GUI resizable, and don't make massive knobs next to tiny ones etc.
This is why despite some mojo with other emulations I'm a fan of U-He and Arturia, plus Rhizomatic even have permanent cc assignments for their macro section on Plasmonic.

I really do not understand how these ideas that have been around for decades at this point are not universally adopted by developers?

[whassup]

.. so when is this coming out? Not sure what is going on with XLIS Lab but to my ears they sound quite unique. I have the Poly KB3 and it's rather unique, though quite frustrating to use and a lot of "clunky" bullshit with the Ui. Still, I'm willing to suffer through some of that crap due to the unique sound/tonality it has.

The whole UI thing is my worry with any Xils product.
I think their DSP is among the best but the flaky and weird UIs is really offputting.
The XILS 4 EMS synth feels like it's held together with virtual sticky tape
And on top of that the CS80 is a challenging synth to reimagine in the software world.
Arturia's and Cherry Audio's versions are overwhelming and fiddly.
I think Softube's Model 77 has the best CS80 UI of all the current emulations.

100%. A modern UI designer could be transformative to the business.

Spell FABFILTER.

[Vortifex]

The whole UI thing is my worry with any Xils product.
I think their DSP is among the best but the flaky and weird UIs is really offputting.
The XILS 4 EMS synth feels like it's held together with virtual sticky tape
And on top of that the CS80 is a challenging synth to reimagine in the software world.
Arturia's and Cherry Audio's versions are overwhelming and fiddly.
I think Softube's Model 77 has the best CS80 UI of all the current emulations.

100%. A modern UI designer could be transformative to the business.

Spell FABFILTER.

No thanks, the UI on their synth is awful.

[bmanic]

Fabfilter have their own problems yeah. By far their best UI is for Pro-Q, Pro-L and possibly Pro-R. But as soon as they make more complicated plugins (Twin, timeless, volcano, saturn) they definitely fall short in the usability department.

[whassup]

I found Saturn2 and Pro Q3 rather good to work with interface wise. Rather few wishes for improvement of the interface.

[vitocorleone123]

The whole UI thing is my worry with any Xils product.
I think their DSP is among the best but the flaky and weird UIs is really offputting.
The XILS 4 EMS synth feels like it's held together with virtual sticky tape
And on top of that the CS80 is a challenging synth to reimagine in the software world.
Arturia's and Cherry Audio's versions are overwhelming and fiddly.
I think Softube's Model 77 has the best CS80 UI of all the current emulations.

100%. A modern UI designer could be transformative to the business.

Spell FABFILTER.

No thanks, the UI on their synth is awful.

I find it to be quite good overall. There was a small learning curve. Twin3 remains my go-to software synth for a more “analog” sound since it came out. All the emulations have fallen by the wayside and been moved to a subfolder or deleted.

I don’t do complex soundscapes with my synths - I prefer to focus on the core sound.

UAD polymax was close but needed 2-4 modulation slots.

[wayford]

100%. A modern UI designer could be transformative to the business.

I was trying to add some more clarity to the original PolyKB III skin and it went quite alright, but unfortunately when I replaced the files, the plugin started crashing more often.

I have worked in projects like this where things need to be redone and modernised and honestly I think the first biggest improvement XILS could make is HiDPI support. The clarity that would bring (especially for text) would massively benefit all the users and the devs too in the long run. Then we can talk contrast, font selection, scaling, etc.

With as task as big as replicating the original interface of a CS-80, fitting all functions in one "screen" is not the best solution. Adding different "tabs" or the Arturia approach of having an expandable section for effects would be best.

It is possible and XILS really need a designer with a fresh approach (meaning fairly young, like yours truly).

UX design is key, always.