[FREE] ConvertWithMoss - convert from/to WAV,Bitwig,SFZ,SF2,DecentSampler,MPC/Force,Wave-/Modwave/KMP,NKI,EXS) v17.1

[moss]

Hi
I'm trying to install the .deb converter on AVL 21.3 (based on mxlinux and debian 11)
I'm getting the error
dpkg-deb: error: archive 'convertwithmoss_11.5.0_amd64.deb' uses unknown compression for member 'control.tar.zst', giving up
Can you tell me how to solve this problem
Many thanks

I am afraid not. If you know a bit about Java you could build it from the sources.

[ReinhardK71]

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Hi
I'm trying to install the .deb converter on AVL 21.3 (based on mxlinux and debian 11)
I'm getting the error
dpkg-deb: error: archive 'convertwithmoss_11.5.0_amd64.deb' uses unknown compression for member 'control.tar.zst', giving up

The debian file is using a compression format that is not supported by deb. It's probably an compression extension used in other debian-based distributions like Ubuntu.
See here: https://github.com/bkw777/mainline/issues/121 (https://github.com/bkw777/mainline/issues/121) for discussion on the problem.

Maybe it can be solved using additional parameters that dpkg uses to recognize the compression format ("-Zxz"), should the compression format used for this package be "xz".

Alternatively you could try to create your own debian package from the sources.

[sprnva]

IIRC, the .zst extension is for Zstandard compression. Maybe this isn't supported by Debian 11 or needs to be installed.

Alternatively you could use 7zip to extract the .deb and manually put the files where they need to go.

[moss]

ConvertWithMoss 11.6.0 is online!

Get it from https://mossgrabers.de

• EXS24
  • New: Added support for round-robin. Files are larger now since this info is in an additional block.
  • Fixed: Reading: group indices were off by 1.
• SFZ
  • New: Added support for round-robin on group-level (not only zone-level).
• Kontakt
  • New: Added support reading for Kontakt 8
  • New: Added support for reading new file lists in 7.10+.
• Korgmultisample
  • Fixed: Files created with Sample Builder 1.2.7 could not be read.
  • Fixed: If a korgmultisample file was located in a subfolder, its samples could not be found.

Enjoy!

[billw]

Hello,

I'm trying to convert a Korg Kronos sample folder to Wave files but many of my .KMP files contain a reference to something called SKIPPEDSAMPL. ConvertWithMoss fails to convert the samples in that folder and gives me an error like this:

Could not load file: KSF file not found: /Users/xxx/Desktop/Samples/SM Samples/Mon/SUMME034/SKIPPEDSAMPL

I don't think there's anything technically wrong with this scenario and if I take another KMP file that doesn't contain SKIPPEDSAMPL, rename it to match the subfolder and edit the KMP file's sample name, ConvertWithMoss successfully extracts the KSF to a wave. Is there a way to make ConvertWithMoss ignore that SKIPPEDSAMPL entry and convert the KSF files that do exist in that folder?

I've also noticed that the root of my Kronos sample folder contains a lot of .KSF files that do not get converted, possibly because ConvertWithMoss is looking for KMP files only? Is there a way to convert those root-level KSF files?

Thanks,
Bill

[moss]

I'm trying to convert a Korg Kronos sample folder to Wave files but many of my .KMP files contain a reference to something called SKIPPEDSAMPL. ConvertWithMoss fails to convert the samples in that folder and gives me an error like this:

Could not load file: KSF file not found: /Users/xxx/Desktop/Samples/SM Samples/Mon/SUMME034/SKIPPEDSAMPL

I don't think there's anything technically wrong with this scenario and if I take another KMP file that doesn't contain SKIPPEDSAMPL, rename it to match the subfolder and edit the KMP file's sample name, ConvertWithMoss successfully extracts the KSF to a wave. Is there a way to make ConvertWithMoss ignore that SKIPPEDSAMPL entry and convert the KSF files that do exist in that folder?

Interesting. What does the Kronos show when you load such a KMP for the SKIPPEDSAMPL?
Can you send me an example?

I've also noticed that the root of my Kronos sample folder contains a lot of .KSF files that do not get converted, possibly because ConvertWithMoss is looking for KMP files only? Is there a way to convert those root-level KSF files?

Hmm, maybe I could add them to the Sample only converter.

[billw]

The Korg manuals say "If the .KSF filename is “SKIPPEDSAMPL”, it will be treated as a sample skipped during loading." About 20% of my own multisamples have SKIPPEDSAMPL in them somewhere and they all load/play. I created these manually on the Kronos - maybe it has something to do with that process. Possibly it's an extra/unused zone created in the multisample screen that has no sample associated with it.

Hmm, maybe I could add them to the Sample only converter.

That would be awesome!

Thanks,
Bill

[moss]

The Korg manuals say "If the .KSF filename is “SKIPPEDSAMPL”, it will be treated as a sample skipped during loading." About 20% of my own multisamples have SKIPPEDSAMPL in them somewhere and they all load/play. I created these manually on the Kronos - maybe it has something to do with that process. Possibly it's an extra/unused zone created in the multisample screen that has no sample associated with it.

Hmm, maybe I could add them to the Sample only converter.

That would be awesome!

Thanks,
Bill

Should be easy to implement but can you send me an example? (Upload to your favorite file hoster and PM me the link).

[billw]

Link sent - thank you!

[moss]

ConvertWithMoss 11.7.0 is online!

Get it from https://mossgrabers.de

• New: Writing of samples can now be cancelled as well.
• Fixed: Logger text is now cleared regularily to prevent a crash. To have the log still available, all messages are now logged into a file ConvertWithMoss.log which is created in the output directory.
• Kontakt
  • Fixed: Regression: Reading Kontakt 5-7 file lists were broken.
  • Fixed: NCW files are now only read when needed for writing and the memory is freed up directly afterwards to support NKIs which reference a very large amount of NCW files.
• Korg KMP
  • New: KSF files which reference another KSF file are now read properly.
  • New: Reading: Applied +12dB option.
  • New: KMP/KSF files which contain SKIPPEDSAMPLE as a filename are now ignored (conversion was canceled previously).
• Sample Files
  • New: Notify about the number of sample files found in a folder before the mapping starts.

Enjoy!

[billw]

Thanks for this new version - the Korg KMP fixes worked perfectly for me.

[popsel3]

Hello Jürgen,
first of all I would like to thank you for your excellent, free software ConvertWithMOSS, which I use to convert SFZ and SoundFont multisamples to AKAI (AKAI Keygroups). It works very well. But I have one suggestion for improvement. For example, if I want to convert a collection of PAD sounds, I need a relatively long release time so that the pad fades out nicely after the keys are released. Currently I have to load such AKAI keygroups in the PC MPC software and manually adjust the release time for all keygroups and finally save the adjusted version again. Convert With MOSS already adds a short release time during the conversion. I think it would be great if you could add a slider instead of the fixed release time so that you can set the release time before starting the conversion and save yourself the post-processing. Convert With MOSS should remember the position of the slider when changes are made so that the selected release time is automatically preset the next time the program is started. Of course, this could be extended to a complete ADSR envelope set. But what I always have to adjust is the release time. With Convert With MOSS you could save even more time and use the AKAI keygroups directly.
Kind regards Andreas


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Convert With MOSS Verbessern

Hallo Jürgen,
zuerst möchte ich mich für Deine hervorragende , kostenlose Software ConvertWithMOSS bedanken, die ich verwende, um SFZ und SoundFont Multisamples in AKAI (AKAI Keygroups) zu konvertieren. Das funktioniert sehr gut. Ich hätte aber noch einen Verbesserungsvorschlag. Möchte ich z.B. eine Sammlung von PAD Sounds konvertieren, dann benötige ich eine relativ lange Release Zeit, damit das Pad, nach dem Loslassen der Tasten schön ausklingt. Aktuell muss ich solche AKAI Keygroups in der PC MPC Software laden und die Release Zeit für alle Keygroups manuell nachjustieren und zu Schluss die angepasste Version wieder speichern. Convert With MOSS fügt bereits eine kurze Release-Zeit bei der Konvertierung hinzu. Ich fände es super, wenn Du statt der festen Releasezeit einen Regler hinzufügen könntest, mit dem man die Releasezeit vor dem Start der Konvertierung einstellen kann und man sich die Nachbearbeitung erspart. Die Position des Reglers sollte ich Convert With MOSS bei Änderungen merken, sodass die gewählte Ausklingdauer beim nächsten Programmstart automatisch voreingestellt ist. Natürlich könnte man dies auf einen kompletten ADSR Hüllkuvensatz erweitern. Was ich aber immer anpassen muss, ist die Releasezeit. So könnte man mit Convert With MOSS noch mehr Zeit sparen und die AKAI Keygroups direkt verwenden.
Freundliche Grüße Andreas

[moss]

Hello Jürgen,
first of all I would like to thank you for your excellent, free software ConvertWithMOSS, which I use to convert SFZ and SoundFont multisamples to AKAI (AKAI Keygroups). It works very well. But I have one suggestion for improvement. For example, if I want to convert a collection of PAD sounds, I need a relatively long release time so that the pad fades out nicely after the keys are released. Currently I have to load such AKAI keygroups in the PC MPC software and manually adjust the release time for all keygroups and finally save the adjusted version again. Convert With MOSS already adds a short release time during the conversion. I think it would be great if you could add a slider instead of the fixed release time so that you can set the release time before starting the conversion and save yourself the post-processing. Convert With MOSS should remember the position of the slider when changes are made so that the selected release time is automatically preset the next time the program is started. Of course, this could be extended to a complete ADSR envelope set. But what I always have to adjust is the release time. With Convert With MOSS you could save even more time and use the AKAI keygroups directly.
Kind regards Andreas

The idea of ConvertWithMoss is to have everything automatically. Envelopes are always problematic since it is never documented how they work. Nevertheless, I did just an improvement with another format to "simply" check all different possible values. Quite some work. But will take note, to have a look if I find some time.

[loukaslc]

Hello! First of all, THANK YOU for taking the time to create this! From what I gather it must be a SUPER powerful tool!

I am trying to convert some sample instruments from Logic Pro 11 to Kontakt but I seem to be having issues or I am not understanding the manual correctly.

The structure of the Logic Pro content is a bit confusing (

Screenshot 2025-01-13 at 2.15.31 PM.png

and I am not entirely sure if I am selecting the correct folders to start with.

I should mention that logic retired the exs24 sampler a few years back and has replaced it with the 'sampler'. Most of the sampler instruments, however, are in exs format.

Has anyone here managed to convert Logic's instruments to Kontakt successfully? and if yes, would you please share some suggestions on what I might be doing wrong?

Many many thanks in advance!

[Schrödinger's Cat]

Thank you so much for this great tool!

I converted a simple Kontakt patch (unencrypted, no scripts) to NN-XT/.sxt. The converted file loads successfully in Reason 13 (yay!) but there are three issues with the conversion using v11.7.0:

1. The Round Robin setting from the nki's groups is not converted to overlapping NN-XT zones. The respective zone's "Alt" setting is set to "Off" while it should be "On" for such zones:
   nki-roundrobin-settings.png
   sxr-roundrobin-alt-off.png
2. The nki's velocity curve influence setting of the groups is not converted to the NN-XT's zones, resulting in an extreme dynamic range in NN-XT:
   nki-velocity-reduced-influence.png
   sxt-velocity-full-influence.png
3. The nki's envelope settings are not converted properly, causing the NN-XT patch to have a much longer release phase than the nki patch:
   nki-envelope-adjustments.png
   sxt-env-wrong-settings.png
   The resulting envelope settings in the NN-XT patch (Hold: off, Decay: 1ms, Sustain: 0dB, Release: 4s) are not the default settings, so I wonder why it ended up with these values?

I can upload the original and converted patch privately if that helps.