One Synth Challenge #191: Zebralette by u-he (exponent1 Wins!)

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] Peter:H [ wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 7:31 am
doctorbob wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:13 pm
] Peter:H [ wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 2:33 pm If you want to add your own single cycles ... here's the Wav2Zebra Utility: https://github.com/perivar/AudioVSTTool ... 2Zebra2Osc. You can add 16 of your own single cycles ... a pure sine for instance is missing ;-)
Looks interesting ... where can I find the Windows .exe? Please.

dB
It's here: https://github.com/perivar/AudioVSTToolbox/releases
There's no installer. Unzip the content of the zip into a new folder, then run the exe from this folder.
Thanks for the link to this utility, i've tried importing something white noise but the wave lenght is not enough for that... then I going to try with the diferent osc fxs

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davi-dj wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 12:41 pm
] Peter:H [ wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 7:31 am
doctorbob wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:13 pm
] Peter:H [ wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 2:33 pm If you want to add your own single cycles ... here's the Wav2Zebra Utility: https://github.com/perivar/AudioVSTTool ... 2Zebra2Osc. You can add 16 of your own single cycles ... a pure sine for instance is missing ;-)
Looks interesting ... where can I find the Windows .exe? Please.

dB
It's here: https://github.com/perivar/AudioVSTToolbox/releases
There's no installer. Unzip the content of the zip into a new folder, then run the exe from this folder.
Thanks for the link to this utility, i've tried importing something white noise but the wave lenght is not enough for that... then I going to try with the diferent osc fxs
Some technical background
He he he, I remember I actually did speech samples back then in the first Zebralette round. Kind of started the wavetable as sample discussion ;-)
Anyways: If you look into the file that is produced by the utility, it has a .h2p extension, then this is actually a text file. If you for instance produce a sine in the first slot, it might look like this

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#defaults=no
#cm=OSC
Wave=2
<?
float Wave[ 128 ];
Wave[ 0 ] = 0.3132;
Wave[ 1 ] = 0.3132;
Wave[ 2 ] = 0.3132;
[...]
Wave[ 127 ] = -0.6118;
Selected.WaveTable.set( 1 , Wave );
?>
So the utility produces at max 128 samples for one slot. If you import white noise into just one slot this is a.) to few data as you said davi-dj and b.) it's to static. White noise is not static. It constantly changes.

How can you now cope with that? My recipy would be:
1.) Import different white noise samples in each of the 16 slots ... gives you overall 16 * 128 samples .. a tremendous 2048 samples! Crazy isn't it! A single cycle (aka a single slot in a Vital Wavetable) is 2048 samples long ... and Vital has afair 256 slots per wavetable, aka 256 * 2048 samples in a single wavetable ... sorry digressing ;-)
2.) Add a very fast random-based slot modulation
This will make your very static 16 white noise slots look like a lot more dynamic. It will probably sound different from real white noise, but it might come a lot closer than just one slot.

Back from the previous Zebralette round I have a command line using ffmpeg.exe which allows you to split larger wav files into smaller junks which in turn can be used as inputs for the utility. You migh steal Vitals white noise sample and do the exercise with this as an input.

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ffmpeg -i "<source file>" -f segment -segment_time 0.010 -c copy output_fragment%03d.wav
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White Noise Wavetable and Patch
Did a patch based on my "recipe" quickly myself based on Vitals White Noise factory sample ... find two files in the attachment.
1.) Wavetable - PeterHsWhiteNoise.zip: Put the h2p file into <documents folder>\u-he\Zebra2.data\Modules\Oscillator\
2.) Patch - Noisy Zebralette.zip: Put the h2p file into <documents folder>u-he\Zebra2.data\UserPresets\Zebralette

I think experimenting with Bandworks and Scamble might give good results ... as well.
Have fun!
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67maxx wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 3:13 pm Hi, I am pretty new here (but not in this world :P ) and I have a dumb question: should I use only the factory presets or can I modify them or create new ones? And same question about the Zebralette 2 MSEG :)
Thanks in advance
Welcome! You definitely should modify and create new patches! That's half the fun :)

A lot of us try to create all our own patches from init.
Captain Silverpants

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Music should bring harmony, not stress :phones:

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-- Never Mind --
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NOT a Submission... but here's the previous zebralette track which I mentioned earlier which contains some magic ... I was able to sequeeze in voice phrases into Zebralette ... each word is actually not a single zebralette instance but a few played in sequence ;-) Call me nerd ... Warrning: Do not use this techique! It's prohibited long since.
https://soundcloud.com/p-e-t-e-r-h/osc- ... mpaign=666

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] Peter:H [ wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:07 pm White Noise Wavetable and Patch
Did a patch based on my "recipe" quickly myself based on Vitals White Noise factory sample ... find two files in the attachment.
1.) Wavetable - PeterHsWhiteNoise.zip: Put the h2p file into <documents folder>\u-he\Zebra2.data\Modules\Oscillator\
2.) Patch - Noisy Zebralette.zip: Put the h2p file into <documents folder>u-he\Zebra2.data\UserPresets\Zebralette

I think experimenting with Bandworks and Scamble might give good results ... as well.
Have fun!
Thanks Peter for your solution, I was able to get a decent hihat from the SM Helicopta preset with some modifications with Bandworks and Scamble, the same as you said. Although I also got a closed hihat using filter and fractalz.

But now I'm going to try your White Noise preset from the sum and alternating the 16 waves :hihi:

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For those who might not know it already ... here's a bunch of patches: https://u-he.com/PatchLib/zebra.html#zlette

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Ha ha ha ... I didn't know that. U-He Presets are Executable Scripts!
Look here: viewtopic.php?t=252338
And here's Urs own randomizer scripts: https://u-he.com/PatchLib/all.html

Okay ... I need to find the specification ;-)

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67maxx wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 1:21 pm
] Peter:H [ wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 9:21 am For those who might not know it already ... here's a bunch of patches: https://u-he.com/PatchLib/zebra.html#zlette
Can we use them for this challenge?
I would say yes, but I'm not the final rulez authority ...

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67maxx wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 1:21 pm
] Peter:H [ wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 9:21 am For those who might not know it already ... here's a bunch of patches: https://u-he.com/PatchLib/zebra.html#zlette
Can we use them for this challenge?
Yes.

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