Which production concepts/techniques have improved your production the most?

[CrystalWizard]

Miles Davis?

Damn, you made me Google it

"Music is the silence between the notes" - Claude Debussy.

“The music is not in the notes, but in the silence between.” (Mozart)

“Music is the space between the notes.” (DeBussy)

“In music, silence is more important than sound.” (Davis)

“It's not the notes you play; it's the notes you don't play.” (Davis)

Good one, i bet there's a few others, too, but those four quotes are enough.

[Uncle E]

That DeBussy quote hits me hard. Imagine listening to the rhythm of the silence. And then try to think of a piece of non-classical music that has even a second of silence.

[kritikon]

John Cage - 4'33". It's a banger of silence. More silence than DeBussy, Davis and Mozart put together.

[crimsonwarlock]

“The music is not in the notes, but in the silence between.” (Mozart)

“Music is the space between the notes.” (DeBussy)

“In music, silence is more important than sound.” (Davis)

“It's not the notes you play; it's the notes you don't play.” (Davis)

I think we can say with some certainty, that of those, Mozart said it first.

John Cage - 4'33". It's a banger of silence. More silence than DeBussy, Davis and Mozart put together.

Yep, but he forgot to put in the notes for the silence to be in between

[_leras]

That DeBussy quote hits me hard. Imagine listening to the rhythm of the silence. And then try to think of a piece of non-classical music that has even a second of silence.

Most classical music doesn't necessarily have much silence either, as e.g. may have softer background music under a main theme.

I see it being more around giving the main parts enough space to carry a theme, and also allow notes to ring out and hold, letting a theme hang there, before continuing.

But also on the smaller level, I think this applies to the phrasing and those smaller gaps between notes.

And perhaps an example of this is just practing up and down a scale. This at first can be very static and focused on playing the notes cleanly, but over time can become more musical with a gliding over the notes that comes with more fluid playing which introduces some 'micro' groove in the timing and note lengths.

Anyway those are my interpretations.

[CrystalWizard]

That DeBussy quote hits me hard. Imagine listening to the rhythm of the silence. And then try to think of a piece of non-classical music that has even a second of silence.

Don't know about a second but there is tons of music with silence in it.

[harryupbabble]

seems like i have never seen music on paper that didn't have silence
rest is what they call it

common drum rock beat has the snare being silent on beat 1 and beat 3

[crimsonwarlock]

I don't think Mozart and Debussy were talking about full orchestration, but about the parts of the individual instruments.

[Uncle E]

Don't know about a second but there is tons of music with silence in it.

Such as?

[_leras]

Don't know about a second but there is tons of music with silence in it.

Such as?

The intro to Back in Black by AC/DC

Anything by Debussy or Miles Davis?

But seriously, you can't think of any melodies or themes with gaps between notes?

Even the most straight timing in melodies can be played in a more articulate way, and that phrasing and timing between notes is what brings something to life. Gives it feeling.

[Uncle E]

System of a Down Chop Suey and Helmet In The Meantime are the only ones I can think of that use silence in a way that could be considered rhythmic (which is how the Debussy quote hit me). Led Zeppelin What Is and What Should Never Be has at least one nice break. The fact that it’s so rare and has such a huge impact makes me think we should be doing it more often.

[VOODOO U]

Don't know about a second but there is tons of music with silence in it.

Such as?

The intro to Back in Black by AC/DC

Anything by Debussy or Miles Davis?

I also highly suggest listening to the awesome 1992 album Mastubate In Praise Of Black Satan by the very talented APATOR for an excellent example of silence used in music

[Uncle E]

[CrystalWizard]

Jazz, Persian, Gamelan, Zappa, Crimson, Yes, and lots more.
of course the whole discussion is contingent on what duration silence, 100ms? 500ms? 1000ms
And why does it need to be rhythmic?

[Uncle E]

1 second.

It doesn’t have to be rhythmic. We don’t even have to discuss it. I didn’t make the statement as a challenge. But the reason the quote hit me hard was because I was imagining listening to the rhythm of the silence. Just a personal observation.