I can't get my melody to sound in sync with with metronome even with quantize/manually moving notes.
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- KVRer
- 3 posts since 31 May, 2023
BPM track is 141.
What the fk can I do? I look at the grid and try to change it's values but whatever I do I can't sync it properly. This is a problem I am facing quite often.
I tried playing the notes on my laptop keys and I cannot get it right and I also tried to manually create the notes with my mouse (using the same length) and I can still not get it right.
I am lost in this particular case.
Can somebody help me out? Maybe some FL Studio theory that would help me out with this problem?
Thx.
Recorded notes:
https://soundcloud.com/user-42476094/re ... al_sharing
Manually created notes with mouse:
https://soundcloud.com/user-42476094/mo ... al_sharing
What the fk can I do? I look at the grid and try to change it's values but whatever I do I can't sync it properly. This is a problem I am facing quite often.
I tried playing the notes on my laptop keys and I cannot get it right and I also tried to manually create the notes with my mouse (using the same length) and I can still not get it right.
I am lost in this particular case.
Can somebody help me out? Maybe some FL Studio theory that would help me out with this problem?
Thx.
Recorded notes:
https://soundcloud.com/user-42476094/re ... al_sharing
Manually created notes with mouse:
https://soundcloud.com/user-42476094/mo ... al_sharing
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FranklyFlawless FranklyFlawless https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=586325
- KVRian
- 1091 posts since 24 Oct, 2022
That is because the melody is swung, so you need a triplet grid.
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- KVRAF
- 7094 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
I have not listened to tracks so nothing specific to say.
But learn to count in your head to make it fit first
one-and-two-and three-and-four and that fits it's 4/4 time signature
one-and-a-two-and-a-three-and-a-four and fits it's 4/4 and 8th note triplets
You can end up with 5/4, 6/8 or whatever.
This can be done silly slow if tempo is higher that make counting hard or impossible, just slow to a crawl.
- 141 is rather fast
Or get a metronome that allow all kinds of tuplets in there to listen if you can make it fit.
- Korg Beatlab or Boss DB90 are easy to just move faders and listen to subs in a pattern
Some daws like Reaper, Digital Performer and Cubase allow custom patterns for metronomes as well.
But learn to count in your head to make it fit first
one-and-two-and three-and-four and that fits it's 4/4 time signature
one-and-a-two-and-a-three-and-a-four and fits it's 4/4 and 8th note triplets
You can end up with 5/4, 6/8 or whatever.
This can be done silly slow if tempo is higher that make counting hard or impossible, just slow to a crawl.
- 141 is rather fast
Or get a metronome that allow all kinds of tuplets in there to listen if you can make it fit.
- Korg Beatlab or Boss DB90 are easy to just move faders and listen to subs in a pattern
Some daws like Reaper, Digital Performer and Cubase allow custom patterns for metronomes as well.
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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 31 Dec, 2024
Could well be triplets.
If you can, you can just play this in with a MIDI keyboard.
Couple of tips which can help this:
1) Slow the tempo down to record, then speed it up after.
2) Record the riff, but all on one note. Just capture the rhythm without worrying about the exact notes. Then you can manually move each note to right note, or even drag this line up or down and use it as a rhythmic reference, then delete it after.
If you can, you can just play this in with a MIDI keyboard.
Couple of tips which can help this:
1) Slow the tempo down to record, then speed it up after.
2) Record the riff, but all on one note. Just capture the rhythm without worrying about the exact notes. Then you can manually move each note to right note, or even drag this line up or down and use it as a rhythmic reference, then delete it after.
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
There is only one spot in the thing where a triplet applies, it's a quarter (or 8th) triplet followed by an 8th (or 16th) triplet, depending on how you count the basic beat. This is what was referred to as 'swung'; instead of straight 8ths or 16ths, the second of two is at, instead of 50% of its way through the beat, "66.666%", 2/3rds of its way through the beat.
The whole is 8 beats of one or the other; so if that's counted as a bar of 4, the latter applies. If there's quantization set more coarsely than this and that doesn't take into account triple divisions of the time, that second smaller duration will be magnetized to a duple value. In either case the grid that will take that bit into account has 24 ticks in all (if all you have is 16 you're doomed).
The whole is 8 beats of one or the other; so if that's counted as a bar of 4, the latter applies. If there's quantization set more coarsely than this and that doesn't take into account triple divisions of the time, that second smaller duration will be magnetized to a duple value. In either case the grid that will take that bit into account has 24 ticks in all (if all you have is 16 you're doomed).
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- KVRist
- 146 posts since 19 May, 2017
He is right: it's it's an 8th swing based on tripplets with one phrase that's made of a tripplet. Don't overcomplicate it.FranklyFlawless wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:43 pm That is because the melody is swung, so you need a triplet grid.
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