Korg multi/poly native - reimagined Mono/Poly Synthesizer plugin

[SLiC]

Personally, I have all of the Korg native synths and I think they are some of the best VSTs available, cant wait to try this one.

[IvyBirds]

and has polluted that thread with the same complaints in walls of text over and over and over.

Yep you are so concerned with polluting threads you have joined in with others in polluting this thread

But by all means continue it's hilarious

[frag]

If M/P native sounds exactly like hardware, then it will be great synth, regardless of GUI.

I find it depressing that in 2025 many users don't comprehend the benefits of multiprocessing.

With optimized MT plugins and host, it's almost impossible to fill out ASIO buffer - you add more voices, more fx, more voices, more fx, and you never run out of buffer!
Single thread performance is nice to have, but it defies the concept of multithreading. They make a single thread synth which overloads ASIO buffer on everything older than 3 gens, and you say: DAMN I NEED A NEW PC. While in fact, with proper MT and core parking disabled, there would be no crackling. In some cases even on first gen i7 you would get nice, clean sound
But I can understand that, it's an industry which has to make money.

It's truly scary that u-he Diva is still the only instrument with proper MT implementation. Truly scary. I love Spire's sound, it's a shame it's optimized for single thread performance. Microsoft is responsible for this - they enable core parking by default, so VST companies optimize plugins for that.

[IvyBirds]

.I find it depressing that in 2025 many users don't comprehend the benefits of multiprocessing.

But we do

With optimized MT plugins and host, it's almost impossible to fill out ASIO buffer - you add more voices, more fx, more voices, more fx, and you never run out of buffer!

But since I let Cubase and/or my OS handle that I never fill out my ASIO buffer, it's literally not an issue

Single thread performance is nice to have, but it defies the concept of multithreading. They make a single thread synth which overloads ASIO buffer on everything older than 3 gens, and you say: DAMN I NEED A NEW PC.

But I need a new PC for lots of reasons just not because I run plugins

While in fact, with proper MT and core parking disabled, there would be no crackling. In some cases even on first gen i7 you would get nice, clean sound

There you go again talking about the first generation i7. So are we allowed to talk about that or if we do will you respond with a childish

What a f**** are you talking about?

Then we get to big bad scary sads

It's truly scary that u-he Diva is still the only instrument with proper MT implementation. Truly scary.

No it's not. What's truly scary is the wars going on in Ukraine and the middle east. What's truly scary is that hundreds of millions of parents will go to bed hungry today also knowing their kids didn't get to anything to eat either.

Plugins not written the way you think they should be is not scary. Especially when the overwhelming vast majority of users don't experience what you are talking about because they use modern CPUs

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Ok...?

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It's so obvious that some users here work for Intel/AMD.
Ivy, Bones etc.
When I say: "Without MT, I get 8-10 voices. With MT, I get almost 100 voices."
They immediately come yelling: "NO!! NO!!! YOU NEED NEW MACHINE!"
At first glance, that's irrational, but I don't believe they're nutjobs.
They work for major chip makers, so their behavior is quite reasonable.

The truth is simple: the main reason why you might need new machine, is because Microsoft enforces core parking, which makes difficult for software developers to write multithreaded audio instruments.

For example, in Synapse audio Dune, MT is purely cosmetic, because it is written on a system with core parking enabled.
It's paradoxical to combine core parking and realtime audio multithreading. You need all threads fully running for proper MT.

So yeah, some people like their DAWs the way they are, treat them like a grand piano
It's nice to add a synth from time to time but not necessary

[RobGee]

Korg have left Roland in the dust!

[EnGee]

In Logic Pro I can see which instrument uses multi threads and which one doesn’t. Most of my soft synths don’t distribute cpu usage among the cores or threads. Few does yes, but if single thread/core is capable, then it doesn’t matter really because not all the synths use the same core. That what I see on my M1 mini Mac. I suppose it’s the same with my AMD 5800x because the performance is similar (mostly looks more optimised on M1, but it’s a little difference anyway).
Both CPUs are few years old now but running fine. Anyway, I’m putting some money aside so either I upgrade my PC (new motherboard, CPU, cooler, memory, case and PSU, the whole unit except maybe the video card). Or it’s a new M4 (maybe Pro) mini Mac or Airbook.

Some people live in countries with difficult economies. I understand why they can’t spend that huge sum of money for them, but I don’t understand those that spend $500 monthly on their weeds and can’t put aside $500 a year for upgrading their computer which they use daily for many hours.
Of course there are those stingy persons that instead of donating their old computers (God forbid), they are keep squeezing it till it’s dead. Completely dead, which might not happen in their lifetime

[IvyBirds]

It's so obvious that some users here work for Intel/AMD.
Ivy, Bones etc.
When I say: "Without MT, I get 8-10 voices. With MT, I get almost 100 voices."
They immediately come yelling: "NO!! NO!!! YOU NEED NEW MACHINE!"
At first glance, that's irrational, but I don't believe they're nutjobs.
They work for major chip makers, so their behavior is quite reasonable.

Only I never said you need a machine, but thanks for lying about me anyway and calling me a nutjob

The reality is you don't need a new computer or any new software in fact you don't need any computer, or any software or hardware synthesizers at all to make music

Make yourself a cigar box guitar out of an old can and a string or just sing and use your voice and nothing else

Do you work for U-he? I mean you keep on holding up Diva as the only acceptable instrument to you

My point which you can see because of all the butt hurt you have is you don't need either new software from Korg or anyone else and you don't need to buy a new PC either

Use the tools you have and all will be fine. If you can't make music with 100 voices of Diva on your current system then buying new software and computer hardware won't matter worth a damn

But for the love of God don't bitch and moan that new software won't work on your ancient hardware.

But I get it you think the world revolves around you and Korg and every other software vendor should make sure you are satisfied with how they do things and make sure you think they are doing a good job

[frag]

Yes, yes. We can smell computer hardware sellers posing as "musicians", we're not stupid.
It's that recognizable aggressiveness mixed with worry for the world peace and hunger.

I have newer system you dummy, but guess what, thanks to Audiogrider and virutalization, I can run 95% of new software on "ancient" 24 thread hardware which I still enjoy using.

[IvyBirds]

Yes, yes. We can smell computer hardware sellers posing as "musicians", we're not stupid.
It's that recognizable aggressiveness mixed with worry for the world peace and hunger.

I have newer system you dummy, but guess what, thanks to Audiogrider and virutalization, I can run 95% of new software on "ancient" 24 thread hardware which I still enjoy using.

Only you think I am a computer hardware seller and I am not so you can't spot anything

And awesome you have new computer hardware yet I didn't tell you to buy it and I didn't sell it to you

You did that all on your own because your old system was a piece of ancient shit and you acknowledged that by buying a new one

So all this butthurt and temper tantrum you have been doing was pointless

Your need to buy a new Computer is the best advertising Apple, Microsoft, Intel and AMD could ever want

The hypocrisy on full display is hilarious

[JamminFool]

and has polluted that thread with the same complaints in walls of text over and over and over.

Yep you are so concerned with polluting threads you have joined in with others in polluting this thread

But by all means continue it's hilarious

lame. you really need better comebacks.

[BONES]

Soon, you'll realize you've spent much, much more time reinstalling everything every couple of years on your new PCs...

More like twice a year lately. I am well aware of the price of my particular stupidity.

[IvyBirds]

and has polluted that thread with the same complaints in walls of text over and over and over.

Yep you are so concerned with polluting threads you have joined in with others in polluting this thread

But by all means continue it's hilarious

lame. you really need better comebacks.

Can you please stop polluting threads with the garbage posts and attempts to argue? I mean since you say that's so important and all

[trusampler]

Looking forward to this release congratulations Korg !!