Im new to KVR; Im not an Artist; Im not a producer.

[NicknameJosh]

Hello! Im Josias Kanyinda and im a college student (Lowkey hate it). I'm a person that just wants to do good and learn more about the community I'm very passionate about, which is music!

Based from the Subject line, you know that I'm not an Artist or producer, and I don't plan on do so. I like to consider myself a programmer and I hope there's some room in KVR forums where I can fit in.

My view on programming Is truly unique, I think, as I believe that programming is more of an artistic skill than a technical one. A loving artist picking up his brush to paint unique colors in a specific way on a canvas is like a loving programmer typing lines of code to instruct the computer in a specific way on his IDE. The difference between an loving artist and programmer to a traditional artist and programmer is their passion for it. They are able to paint and engineer things others cannot. Like Bour said to Oppenheimer:

Can you hear the Music?

I hope you guys understand deeply excited for music and programming, specifically Software Development, and I'd be sure to return the energy back onto the community. I want to see all the interesting things about Hardware and Software in music-tech, so if you have any suggestions on where to start that'll be very much appreciated!

Im very open to meet new people and become friends, especially in this community, so shoot me a DM or something idk

Thank you for reading

[zerocrossing]

Welcome.

I'm not exactly sure where to recommend you start, but I do think it could be very beneficial to you to pick some instrument and learn it. I started with guitar, but that's because I was very interested in guitar based artists at that time, but over the years I taught myself some keyboard stuff as well. I'm mostly self taught, but I've had lessons during various times in my life.

[Tiles]

Hey Nicknamejosh,

So you do not want to make music, but the tools to make music?

It all depends what exactly you want to do and to achieve. And how low level you want to enter the arena. You could start with creating a small and simple VST instrument. This can be done with tools like flowstone, which was part of FL Studio for a while.

http://www.dsprobotics.com/flowstone.html
https://www.image-line.com/fl-studio-le ... hmaker.htm

Or with a programming language like C++

https://github.com/jareddrayton/Audio-P ... -Resources

Or maybe you want to get involved into writing a DAW. As an example, LMMS and Ardour are open source.

https://github.com/LMMS/lmms
https://github.com/ardour

You decide

Kind regards
Tiles

[Benedict]

Howdy

I understand what you mean. There are programmers who are all sorts of technicalistic, list languages and ways to subroutine based on clever but often irrelevant things. Then there are programmers who feel a thing and make it work with code and a GUI. They are the ones who do great things.

Music making has exactly the same, obsess over side-chaining the mid-side of their 45th fret humbucker to the fruit of their Pro WAD pluginz running at 456 Bits, 32.5 x oversampling, and 2khz derezzer. They talk a lot, abuse others who don't pray to their cult, and pretend they are creative based on their lists. They are an annoyance (as I am sure you noted). Focus on those who deliver work that matters.

That said the easy money is in those first types. Sadly the whole market is skewed towards them. Make the same mousetrap, only worse, put an absurd GUI on it and tell everyone it is a game changer because it is more Proful than anything existing... :sigh:

[Tiles]

To be fair, it is pretty hard to invent really something new nowadays.

[Benedict]

To be fair, it is pretty hard to invent really something new nowadays.

True. There has been nothing really new to invent since we established the recording studio in the 50s. We have refined and been able to do it better due to technology like computer memory for sampling and the DAW. If anything, I am amazed how we have de-evolutionized much of what we did know and could do. Odd.

[JamminFool]

welcome.

i totally get what you are saying.

i worked as a programmer for many years and always noticed a large overlap between coding and making music (which i only do as a hobby).

we had an after-work band of all programmers. and we weren't the only band in the company. in fact, we weren't even the only band in our department!

i agree that there is something that appeals to the creative side of our brains that can be satisfied by both interests.

anyway, i'm not sure where to recommend you look on KVR to fit in, but I encourage you to explore and get familiar with the various forums. i'm sure you will find a lot to stimulate your interest.

[jamcat]

Based from the Subject line, you know that I'm not an Artist or producer, and I don't plan on do so. I like to consider myself a programmer and I hope there's some room in KVR forums where I can fit in.

There is. Be sure to checkout the DSP Forum.

And if you are interested in developing music software, it would be a good idea to pick up an instrument or do some production, as it helps familiarize yourself with common tools and techniques, and it may also stimulate ideas of how you could offer unique new approaches to common problems you might encounter.

[eLawnMust]

Not an Artist NOR a Producer?... Then you are like anybody else on here...

Best way to actually become decent is to just JAM to tunes you like, develop the EAR... That way you can pick anything out or up... Amazingly there are so many on here that cannot do that even with fairly simple lullaby tunes so always are craving plugins or DAW features that 'do it for them'...

[effie]

“I'm not an Artist or producer”
welcome, admire your unpretentious intro.
plenty to learn here. you can figure for yourself what to ignore ..

[seangm]

del

[dexrow]

I could certainly use a graphics programmer for my audio projects for sure.. I am using max rnbo right now but I have also recently used plugdata.

https://www.patreon.com/c/Dexerus?utm_m ... t=copyLink

[JO512]

To be fair, it is pretty hard to invent really something new nowadays.

I would advise against adopting this narrative. I can't think of anything really new at the moment. However, it seems to me that it is surely is the case that there is always something new that most of us are simply failing to think of. My lack of imagination shouldn't be the metric by which we measure the possibilities of the future. We could probably find examples from a thousand years ago of people expressing something similar, that it has all been done, that we already know everything there is to know, that it's all just repetition, and so on. I seem to remember that in the scientific community, before relativity and quantum mechanics, both of which were huge revelations, there were experts who believed physics was just about wrapped up, that almost everything was known. There were just these few remaining little loose ends...

I can't justify my belief that there is more to discover, as obviously I can't think of any new things, but I have faith that many discoveries are still waiting for us. It's that Rumsfeld thing about knowns, known unknowns, and then the unknown unknowns. We have now idea how big the realm of unknown unknowns actually is.

I would hesitate to discourage young people with such a pessimistic idea as the above quote. Maybe it's true. I don't know. But we should all proceed with the faith that it isn't. Otherwise, what?

[thecontrolcentre]

Welcome to KVR Josh ...
maybe check out the DSP forum to find like-minded folk(?). Good to have more potential developers around here.
Please post any of your work that you'd like to share ...

[Tiles]

To be fair, it is pretty hard to invent really something new nowadays.

I would advise against adopting this narrative. I can't think of anything really new at the moment. However, it seems to me that it is surely is the case that there is always something new that most of us are simply failing to think of. My lack of imagination shouldn't be the metric by which we measure the possibilities of the future. We could probably find examples from a thousand years ago of people expressing something similar, that it has all been done, that we already know everything there is to know, that it's all just repetition, and so on. I seem to remember that in the scientific community, before relativity and quantum mechanics, both of which were huge revelations, there were experts who believed physics was just about wrapped up, that almost everything was known. There were just these few remaining little loose ends...

I can't justify my belief that there is more to discover, as obviously I can't think of any new things, but I have faith that many discoveries are still waiting for us. It's that Rumsfeld thing about knowns, known unknowns, and then the unknown unknowns. We have now idea how big the realm of unknown unknowns actually is.

I would hesitate to discourage young people with such a pessimistic idea as the above quote. Maybe it's true. I don't know. But we should all proceed with the faith that it isn't. Otherwise, what?

Hard, not impossible

I sure do also know the story of somebody who did not know that what he wants to do is impossible, and then simply did it. But i meant it as i wrote it, in conjunction with music equipment. You quote me out of context here. New inventions in the music equipment area are rare. It is most of the times the 100th variation of something already existing. Like a reverb. Or a substractive synthesizer. This is nice, but not something really new. Even tools like Soothe are in real just multiband dynamic eq's ...