Which DAW has the most advanced Piano Roll editor?

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starflakeprj wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:02 pm I'm definitely not a player, hardly a drawer either. You should see my stick figures, and then you can imagine how my drawing in the DAW looks like (or sound like, in this case) :lol:
Oh I guess then you are a good contender for all the nice MIDI generation and alteration tools, we have currently.
funky lime wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 2:55 am many pros use whatever method is appropriate to the task at hand. that also includes writing music notation and hiring musicians to perform it (sometimes they even have a specific musician in mind whose strengths they are writing to). if you limit your musical ideas …
Hiring other musicians do just the pros of the pros. Far away from my scope :ud:
funky lime wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 2:55 am i'm a hack though, and you probably weren't serious anyway, so don't listen to me :hihi:
So don‘t listen to me neither :D :D :D

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SamDi wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 10:19 am
starflakeprj wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:02 pm I'm definitely not a player, hardly a drawer either. You should see my stick figures, and then you can imagine how my drawing in the DAW looks like (or sound like, in this case) :lol:
Oh I guess then you are a good contender for all the nice MIDI generation and alteration tools, we have currently.
I might have one or two of these tools, not that I think they help me that much (mostly static anyway) :lol:
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Yorrrrrr wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:14 pm I no longer see the charm in FL Studio's piano roll, other than aesthetic reasons (but this is subjective). Maybe it's the ability to left click/right click to draw and delete notes? Stamp chords? Whatever. Ableton's to me it's far more functional.
Yes. I always heard stories about how great FL piano roll was.

I was in the bandwagon until I actually tried using it. I just didn't gel with it.

Ableton seems more user friendly or at least i just learn to love the beast I know.

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Why does FL Studio devote the right button to delete the midi note?
I would prefer the right click had a relevant drop down menu.

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Once again why the 'mono' focus on FL or other commoner? It's pretty good with it's own instruments... Still doesn't compare to BUZE-

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These commands can be used on the parameter curve lanes as well as the piano roll many with one or more sub-menus or dialogs...

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Pretty damn feature-laden for a free combo tracker-pianoroller & we haven't even discussed the tracker commands...

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Hope some one writes a script to do the above in Reaper or FL Studio.

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Kalamata Kid wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 12:14 am Why does FL Studio devote the right button to delete the midi note?
I would prefer the right click had a relevant drop down menu.
This made me crazy when I used it trying to learn it. I think many who started with FL got used to it and became the standard behaviour to them. For those who learnt first Cubase, ...etc, they prefer the standard OS behaviour (although Cubase now f**ked it with mimicking Mac on Windows!!). Thus, with time, many 'strange' workflow points became special to FL Studio and they are now strengths instead of weaknesses for those who know how to use it well.

Recently, I'm spending my time mostly with Logic's Piano Roll which is excellent. I still think Live has a very good piano roll and Cubase's also great one. In general, I can feel at home with most DAWs piano rolls except Reaper, FL Studio and Samplitude. I haven't tried Pro Tools or Digital Performer enough that I can remember if they were easy to grasp for me or not.
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