good idea, i have been looking to change the tracks knob to fader preferences but I haven't been able to find it recently?VOODOO U wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:59 pmWhy not setup the tracks to have bigger faders when going to the mixing stage?twal wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:31 pm But, for a more serious mixdown it's much easier using bigger faders...
You could save it as a snapahot so when it's time to mix, hit the key shortcut and voila, tracks are now set with bigger faders for mixing.
When finished hit the key shortcut for tracks to go back to recording view.
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- KVRian
- 974 posts since 10 Feb, 2017 from By the Slot Machines
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- KVRian
- 974 posts since 10 Feb, 2017 from By the Slot Machines
I have had the knobs as faders before, but that was on an older version of Reaper. On 7 now, it's knobs as default and they added the new themes/layout areas/views and I can't remember how to change it.
Even with that, I find it easier to mix with the mixer with the faders lined vertically (in the tracks they are horizontal) but I did mix with just the tracks for some time; and I would like to go back to that option when working early on in the track, but have started to enjoy the mixer view (which I change around with multiple screenshots)...
Even with that, I find it easier to mix with the mixer with the faders lined vertically (in the tracks they are horizontal) but I did mix with just the tracks for some time; and I would like to go back to that option when working early on in the track, but have started to enjoy the mixer view (which I change around with multiple screenshots)...
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- KVRAF
- 1706 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from Indianapolis
Are you saying plugin guis won't open in Bass Studio?mhept wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:46 am Integrated plugin windows are not an option right now.
I looked into it and decided against it.
I played around with 0.6.8.0 for a while, and that was the only thing I couldn't figure out. Then I came here to ask, and saw your post.
- KVRian
- 1156 posts since 20 Oct, 2023
Options menu, layouts, Track panel, choose any option Ctwal wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:21 pm good idea, i have been looking to change the tracks knob to fader preferences but I haven't been able to find it recently?
- KVRian
- 1156 posts since 20 Oct, 2023
There used to be an optional track view where the faders were vertical but it's no.longer available and for good reason, it looked way too sloppy.twal wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:28 pm Even with that, I find it easier to mix with the mixer with the faders lined vertically (in the tracks they are horizontal)
However I would love an option where left clicking a knob displays a fader and readout which remains so long as you keep the left mouse button pressed.
Either that or allow volume to be set directly on the meter readout.
The latter makes the most sense. Why do we need a cosmetic view of a fader?? Just have a meter readout and hovering over it shows for example a solid line where the volume is set which can be clicked on to adjust.
This whole mixer cosmetic is imo uneccesary. Fine though to have it optional.
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- KVRian
- 974 posts since 10 Feb, 2017 from By the Slot Machines
Found it then came back and saw the reply. thanks. thought I tried that the other day...
- GRRRRRRR!
- 17722 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
Well, I could have guessed that it would be all about you and not about music. I'm the other way around, it is, for me, 100% about the music and I'll put up with whatever shit I have to if it makes the result better.VOODOO U wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:48 pmAgain, any opinions on my music takes no priority over me liking them. *I* come first. After *i* like it, I give it to the vocalists and they can have their way with the songs. After that, well....nothing else really matters now does it?
So why do it, if it doesn't matter and it wasn't any good? If it's all about you, why not do something else?And i never really did care for my output for a loooong time.
Hardly. I realise you wouldn't be used to thinking about anyone else but I know how hard it is to find really good music anywhere these days, so promoting what we do is not for our benefit, it's for the benefit of like-minded people who are struggling to find decent music as much as we do. If we wanted people to like us, we wouldn't be making the kind of music we make. What I want is for the music I love to have the same level of popularity it had 30-40 years ago, so that more and more people would have exposure to it. It doesn't have to be our music, it's the genre that matters to me.Versus you and most artists out there who are unhappy with your output and therefore need feedback. You need whatever bit of assuramce because you are dissatisfied in some way shape and form with what's been written.
No, that's the arse-end up view because it won't be displayed efficiently and you won't be able to go in and adjust anything without opening a window on top of what you are looking at.Bottom line whatever is avaialble on the mixer strip, can be displayed on the track in the arrangement view.
Of course not, it's a stupid idea. That's why they all have an Inspector window, which is a really, really inefficient way to show a whole lot of things out of context that it might otherwise be too hard to show elsewhere. I think it's a terrible kludge and I never use it but that seems to be the popular way for most people to do stuff. Traktion tried to put it all in one view but it was really clunky. I doubt that Reaper does it any better.Are you f**king telling me yo can't do this with Cubase? Logic? Pro f**king Tools??? Studio 1?
Look at the screenshot I provided. You can take in the whole project at a glance. If you look closely at the master channel, you can see how hard the limiter is working without opening its GUI window (the little yellow line is dynamic). You can see what your output's frequency spectrum is like without opening a window and you can adjust the important parameters on your effects without opening a GUI window, either.. It's all there and you can take it in with a glance.
My god all the damn money spent and you get crap. For 60 bucks, sure you may get an ugly DAW but it's quite capable.
I don't have to switch, the mixer is always visible, as it is the centre of my workflow. As I said, once I've got an arrangement happening, the only use for the Arrangement window is to see where the song is up to. A thumbnail is all it needs to be, otherwise it's a huge waste of space.Ok this is sounding too naive now. Are you telling me you cannot see your levels and pan aettings on a loaded track with your app?? You have to switch to a mixer view???
How f**king dumb are you? You can see from my screenshot that there is zero flipping between views. Everything I need while I am working is there all the time. IOk then. Enjoy flip flopping between views.
How would I know, you've not been thoughtful enough to provide a screenshot of your set-up. Maybe it's perfect, exactly what I've been looking for?I've got everything I need conveniently laid out on one view. I know i know, now you'll tell me it's rubbish it's wrong and it's not how you do it and my music sucks and yachts are great for eating tuna sandwhiches. Whatever.
I mostly manage without automation, I prefer to use things like velocity modulation, which I set up as I go, in the piano roll. In fact, if I automate anything, it's usually levels in the mixer, which is more accurate if I use the Mixer, with nice, long fader throws. But you're acting like it's a binary choice when it isn't.Rubbish. When I mix I jump to different song positions. I have markers setup. Many times i setup automations and the arrangement view is needed again.
I I have the mixer and arrangement views open together, there is no need to chose between one and the other. That's what makes it work.Switching between the mixer and arrangement was getting old fast.
But then the lightning bulb flashed and I realized i didn't have to switch views. In fact the mixer is a waste of time.
It's definitely there, I just opened it in a new tab without any problems. I uploaded it to KVR so everyone should be able to see it. See if this link works - download/file.php?id=64335If you are trying to post an image, it's not showing up. At least for me it's not.
I would be very keen to see a screenshot of your set-up. If it works, it could be a game-changer for me. It's just that my experience with things like Traktion leads me to believe that it won't be.
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- KVRian
- 974 posts since 10 Feb, 2017 from By the Slot Machines
In Reaper it's the same as other daws where you can have the Track in view with Mixer in view. You can simply use the tracks to mix if you so want to since they are the same as the mixer like i previously mentioned. But, it's way easier for me to mix vertically and look at the faders this way then sideways view of the tracks. I have other views which are screenshots which put things in different places if i want to focus on one or two things. If one weren't to use the bells and whistles of a daw and merely for tracking or even basic midi Reaper is probably the easiest daw to use because views can be changed to whatever you want. I'll provide them here later...
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- KVRian
- 974 posts since 10 Feb, 2017 from By the Slot Machines
You can put your Media Browser where you want, left, right, bottom, float, whatever you want...
Here I've maximized the Mixer. You can also hide your busses, and folders, and set your folders to the right, put your Master whereever you want..
A basic Track and Mixer view with Master on the right I like.
Two 'shots- On the left we have our Tracks with faders if we want to use them to do simple mixing- you don't need to make them this big. On the right I created an Inspector view, which is just heightened highlighted Track, and I minimized the Tracks here to work on Video.
Here I've maximized the Mixer. You can also hide your busses, and folders, and set your folders to the right, put your Master whereever you want..
A basic Track and Mixer view with Master on the right I like.
Two 'shots- On the left we have our Tracks with faders if we want to use them to do simple mixing- you don't need to make them this big. On the right I created an Inspector view, which is just heightened highlighted Track, and I minimized the Tracks here to work on Video.
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- KVRian
- 974 posts since 10 Feb, 2017 from By the Slot Machines
I put up some Screenshots.BONES wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:29 am I would be very keen to see a screenshot of your set-up. If it works, it could be a game-changer for me. It's just that my experience with things like Traktion leads me to believe that it won't be.
- GRRRRRRR!
- 17722 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
Absent works best. To me it just wastes precious screen space. I do use it in Studio One but mostly because you kind of have to and I always dismiss it as soon as I'm done.twal wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:42 amYou can put your Media Browser where you want, left, right, bottom, float, whatever you want...
I can't say any of that grabs me. I've never understood why an Inspector ever got made. I assume it was some kind of kludge to enable new functionality on Logic or Cubase from last Century that people just got used to using but, to me, it's another waste of precious screen real estate. I have literally never used it, either in Cubase or Studio One.Here I've maximized the Mixer. You can also hide your busses, and folders, and set your folders to the right, put your Master whereever you want.
A basic Track and Mixer view with Master on the right I like.
Two 'shots- On the left we have our Tracks with faders if we want to use them to do simple mixing- you don't need to make them this big. On the right I created an Inspector view, which is just heightened highlighted Track, and I minimized the Tracks here to work on Video.
Overall it doesn't seem to use space very well. e.g. The left side widgets for each channel in the arrangement eat into your available horizontal space, which you'd want to maximise for displaying the actual timeline. And if the effects are being shown as well, even just as buttons, you lose more space.
Thanks for making the screenshots, though, I appreciate the effort.
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- KVRian
- 974 posts since 10 Feb, 2017 from By the Slot Machines
You're welcome. You can have it where there is no Inspector. The Inspector is really not an Inspector here but one mixer channel in view.BONES wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:34 amAbsent works best. To me it just wastes precious screen space. I do use it in Studio One but mostly because you kind of have to and I always dismiss it as soon as I'm done.twal wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:42 amYou can put your Media Browser where you want, left, right, bottom, float, whatever you want...I can't say any of that grabs me. I've never understood why an Inspector ever got made. I assume it was some kind of kludge to enable new functionality on Logic or Cubase from last Century that people just got used to using but, to me, it's another waste of precious screen real estate. I have literally never used it, either in Cubase or Studio One.Here I've maximized the Mixer. You can also hide your busses, and folders, and set your folders to the right, put your Master whereever you want.
A basic Track and Mixer view with Master on the right I like.
Two 'shots- On the left we have our Tracks with faders if we want to use them to do simple mixing- you don't need to make them this big. On the right I created an Inspector view, which is just heightened highlighted Track, and I minimized the Tracks here to work on Video.
Overall it doesn't seem to use space very well. e.g. The left side widgets for each channel in the arrangement eat into your available horizontal space, which you'd want to maximise for displaying the actual timeline. And if the effects are being shown as well, even just as buttons, you lose more space.
Thanks for making the screenshots, though, I appreciate the effort.
You can remove the Media Browser too. These Screenshots are purely designed. You can have it anyway you want. If you just want one track with everything hidden you can do that too without needing to remove anything.
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- KVRAF
- 8488 posts since 29 Sep, 2010 from Maui
I tried this DAW today, pretty interesting and impressive, tho it doesn't work super well for me currently (which I haven't really investigated). Anyway, following... 
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- KVRian
- 974 posts since 10 Feb, 2017 from By the Slot Machines
One final screenshot. Very drastic, but you can set it up for something like this. I don't know if this is overboard- you get the picture. (I should of minimized the track to make it even smaller)...BONES wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:34 amAbsent works best. To me it just wastes precious screen space. I do use it in Studio One but mostly because you kind of have to and I always dismiss it as soon as I'm done.twal wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:42 amYou can put your Media Browser where you want, left, right, bottom, float, whatever you want...I can't say any of that grabs me. I've never understood why an Inspector ever got made. I assume it was some kind of kludge to enable new functionality on Logic or Cubase from last Century that people just got used to using but, to me, it's another waste of precious screen real estate. I have literally never used it, either in Cubase or Studio One.Here I've maximized the Mixer. You can also hide your busses, and folders, and set your folders to the right, put your Master whereever you want.
A basic Track and Mixer view with Master on the right I like.
Two 'shots- On the left we have our Tracks with faders if we want to use them to do simple mixing- you don't need to make them this big. On the right I created an Inspector view, which is just heightened highlighted Track, and I minimized the Tracks here to work on Video.
Overall it doesn't seem to use space very well. e.g. The left side widgets for each channel in the arrangement eat into your available horizontal space, which you'd want to maximise for displaying the actual timeline. And if the effects are being shown as well, even just as buttons, you lose more space.
Thanks for making the screenshots, though, I appreciate the effort.
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- 56 posts since 21 Jan, 2025 from RU, KZ
I don't quite understand why this is when the daw niche is overflowing with offers for every taste in 2025.
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