KORG Collection 5 with ARP 2600 Emulation coming Summer 2024

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Korg Supporter wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 3:01 pm Until Feb 10, anyone who owns KORG Collection 4 can upgrade for $49. I felt $99 wasn't worth it for just the 2600, and now I have a reason!
I have Collection 4 and my price to upgrade is still $99. Weird.

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braincandy wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:39 pm
Korg Supporter wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 3:01 pm Until Feb 10, anyone who owns KORG Collection 4 can upgrade for $49. I felt $99 wasn't worth it for just the 2600, and now I have a reason!
I have Collection 4 and my price to upgrade is still $99. Weird.
Did you click the buy button next to the coupon code field to see the price?

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I don’t own Collection package so I get no offers, I do see that price reduction of $199 for this sale and will have to jump on it finally. Individual product purchases don’t qualify for the collection reduction in price only certain things do and I don’t qualify for those things.

Figure this out this weekend, I was looking at a hardware Triton (v1) , the software collection is a better offer at a cheaper price. Woohoo!

Thanks for posting about this, I probably would have missed the offer.

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MachineClaw wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:45 pm I don’t own Collection package so I get no offers, I do see that price reduction of $199 for this sale and will have to jump on it finally. Individual product purchases don’t qualify for the collection reduction in price only certain things do and I don’t qualify for those things.

Figure this out this weekend, I was looking at a hardware Triton (v1) , the software collection is a better offer at a cheaper price. Woohoo!

Thanks for posting about this, I probably would have missed the offer.
The Triton plugin alone is worth $199

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IvyBirds wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:53 pm
MachineClaw wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:45 pm I don’t own Collection package so I get no offers, I do see that price reduction of $199 for this sale and will have to jump on it finally. Individual product purchases don’t qualify for the collection reduction in price only certain things do and I don’t qualify for those things.

Figure this out this weekend, I was looking at a hardware Triton (v1) , the software collection is a better offer at a cheaper price. Woohoo!

Thanks for posting about this, I probably would have missed the offer.
The Triton plugin alone is worth $199
right! looking at a Korg Triton hardware synth old, no extra cards, none of the Triton Extreme , the Collection also has the wavestate n some other plugins I don't have and have been eying. I missed the previous sales each time, so excited to finally know about that sale and can jump on the Collection this time.

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IvyBirds wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:53 pmThe Triton plugin alone is worth $199
It's funny that we all have our preferences. I've never even installed Triton, and I used to own one. I can't imagine it has anything I'd find useful today. OTOH, I think it's worth the full price of entry for ARP Odyssey or ARP 2600. With both it's an absolute no-brainer.
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Korg Supporter wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:42 pm
braincandy wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:39 pm
Korg Supporter wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 3:01 pm Until Feb 10, anyone who owns KORG Collection 4 can upgrade for $49. I felt $99 wasn't worth it for just the 2600, and now I have a reason!
I have Collection 4 and my price to upgrade is still $99. Weird.
Did you click the buy button next to the coupon code field to see the price?
It worked now. Thanks!

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BONES wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 10:13 pm
IvyBirds wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:53 pmThe Triton plugin alone is worth $199
It's funny that we all have our preferences. I've never even installed Triton, and I used to own one. I can't imagine it has anything I'd find useful today. OTOH, I think it's worth the full price of entry for ARP Odyssey or ARP 2600. With both it's an absolute no-brainer.
All depends on what you want.

Korg's Triton (and Roland's Fantom, and Yamaha's Motif line both from the same period) existed from a time when samples and the machines that played them back were starting to get good enough and the rom and ram they needed was starting to get cheap enough that they sounded pretty realistic while having just enough of a not quite realistic edge that they still sounded like an electronic instrument trying to sound like a realistic instrument

For me that's a refreshing contrast over things like multi gigabyte sized Kontact libraries

The thing with Korg's Triton Plugin is that they include all of that sample content right in the plugin itself. Unlike Roland who calls the Fantom XV5080 which it's not, and made all of the expansion ROMs into separate instruments so they are not all together

Or Yamaha's Motif which doesn't exist in plugin form but has it's AWM2 sample content available in the Montage which I also own in Hardware and Software

For me the 2600 and Odyssey are interesting but just represent option numbers 132 &133 of ways to send a square and sawtooth wave through a Resonant Filter while that is interesting I got bored with doing that as a teenager in the 1980s, and if I want that I have Diva and a ton of other vintage Analog Emulations that I got in bundles including Korg's bundles

Don't get me wrong I am glad I have them, but they are not nearly as compelling to me as the M1, Wavestation, and Triton plugins

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IvyBirds wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 12:58 amKorg's Triton (and Roland's Fantom, and Yamaha's Motif line both from the same period) existed from a time when samples and the machines that played them back were starting to get good enough and the rom and ram they needed was starting to get cheap enough that they sounded pretty realistic while having just enough of a not quite realistic edge that they still sounded like an electronic instrument trying to sound like a realistic instrument
Triton only had 32MB of storage for all it's samples. Just listen to how it sounds and marvel that Korg could fit it all in 32MB of non-volatile memory. But even Korg's M1 had some sample-based sounds that were more than realistic enough to do the job. Trinity and Triton didn't necessarily sound any better or more realistic, they just had bigger wave ROMs with a greater variety of sounds and with each new iteration, they doubled the polyphony and added more features.
For me that's a refreshing contrast over things like multi gigabyte sized Kontact libraries
Yeah, but those workstations didn't have things like round-robin or different articulations, they were extremely basic compared to what we have access to today.
For me the 2600 and Odyssey are interesting but just represent option numbers 132 &133 of ways to send a square and sawtooth wave through a Resonant Filter while that is interesting I got bored with doing that as a teenager in the 1980s, and if I want that I have Diva and a ton of other vintage Analog Emulations that I got in bundles including Korg's bundles
But running a sample through a resonant filter is so much more rewarding, is it? I think that probably says more about your level of creativity than it does about the instruments. I could keep throwing sawtooth waves through a resonant filter for another 100 years and never get bored with it. That's because the sounds a synth makes aren't the point of it, the point of it is to make music and you can do that with anything if you've a mind to. When someone listens to your music, they aren't listening for which instruments you used, it's not important to anyone's enjoyment of the piece. I use Odyssey and ARP 2600 because they provide the absolute highest quality sound I have heard and that sound quality matters a lot more to me than anything else.
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Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron

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BONES wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:26 am But running a sample through a resonant filter is so much more rewarding, is it? I think that probably says more about your level of creativity than it does about the instruments. I could keep throwing sawtooth waves through a resonant filter for another 100 years and never get bored with it. That's because the sounds a synth makes aren't the point of it, the point of it is to make music and you can do that with anything if you've a mind to. When someone listens to your music, they aren't listening for which instruments you used, it's not important to anyone's enjoyment of the piece. I use Odyssey and ARP 2600 because they provide the absolute highest quality sound I have heard and that sound quality matters a lot more to me than anything else.
Awesome I see you are looking to pick a fight, have a good night

As for me I love the Triton, it has samples of all the analog wave forms and a whole lot more, most people would get that, sorry you lack the creativity to do so

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I found the KORG Software Pass relatively straightforward to install Collection 5.

It was better and more reliable than some other plugin installers/authorizers I've tried.

The Audio Modeling Software Center for SWAM Instruments for example, usually fails for one or more of the Instruments in their Collection almost every new update. Requiring manual uninstallation and reinstalling of the affected failed installer(s). It's a real unreliable POS by comparison.

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Damn, can't even try Arp2600 demo: did install Korg Software Pass / run it / press "Login at Korg ID" / in browser the page with my account (i already logged on) is opens / alert with request permission to connect app - ok / just opens site' account section with list of my products. (but no changes \ no log-on in Software Pass, all the same).
How hell to install trial lol

Tried delete cookies \ relog \ vpn = nope.
Do really software pass works for anyone ? v1.2.17 / Win10 here

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IvyBirds wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 12:58 am
BONES wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 10:13 pm
IvyBirds wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:53 pmThe Triton plugin alone is worth $199
It's funny that we all have our preferences. I've never even installed Triton, and I used to own one. I can't imagine it has anything I'd find useful today. OTOH, I think it's worth the full price of entry for ARP Odyssey or ARP 2600. With both it's an absolute no-brainer.
The thing with Korg's Triton Plugin is that they include all of that sample content right in the plugin itself. Unlike Roland who calls the Fantom XV5080 which it's not, and made all of the expansion ROMs into separate instruments so they are not all together
I have the XV-5080 and it is good, but there is just so much great content in the Triton and I find it easier to use. It has a decent browser too, unlike the XV-5080.

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IvyBirds wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:20 amAwesome I see you are looking to pick a fight, have a good night
Right, because you meant nothing at all with your dumbarse crack about sawtooth and square waves.
As for me I love the Triton, it has samples of all the analog wave forms and a whole lot more, most people would get that, sorry you lack the creativity to do so
I don't think they would, at all, for the reasons I explained yesterday. It's old, limited technology that has been surpassed by modern sample libraries. Even my microX, which had double the Triton's original sample ROM, wasn't able to compete with free sample libraries that run in the free Kontakt Player. Those things were made for a different era, to be full-fledged DAWs in their own right, they doesn't really have a place now beyond pointless nostalgia. Honestly, anyone who misses the "good old days" either wasn't there or is a complete idiot.
c_voltage wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 10:40 pm Damn, can't even try Arp2600 demo: did install Korg Software Pass / run it / press "Login at Korg ID" / in browser the page with my account (i already logged on) is opens / alert with request permission to connect app - ok / just opens site' account section with list of my products. (but no changes \ no log-on in Software Pass, all the same).
How hell to install trial lol

Tried delete cookies \ relog \ vpn = nope.
Do really software pass works for anyone ? v1.2.17 / Win10 here
That's weird because it should just work in Demo mode until the trial period expires. When I was having trouble with it losing the license at rehearsal, it always worked perfectly well in demo mode, until it decided my trial period was over.
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Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron

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BONES wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 1:23 am That's weird because it should just work in Demo mode until the trial period expires. When I was having trouble with it losing the license at rehearsal, it always worked perfectly well in demo mode, until it decided my trial period was over.
No no i can't download demo installer itself, as i understand this can be done thru manager only or i'm wrong ?

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