I Just Bought A New Host!

[BONES]

BONES: You might want to look into the docking options for eXT. It's something that Jorgen added recently and might be useful if you're used to Orion's method of having all the windows onscreen concurrently.

This is having everything on screen at once.

Its a little small but I can see the toolbar for every instrument [which means the PR or UI for it is one click away], the mixer gives me the perfect overview and puts any effect UI one click away and the Playlist is visible if I ever figure out why I need to be able to see it. MixSaturator gives me good metering so I am set. eXT might give me all that info but it is not presented in a standard format that I can just glance at and understand intimately.

BTW, what skin is that?

[ModuLR]

BTW, what skin is that?

That is shifren-dark. There is a skins thread in the eXT forum. It's a schweet skin for eXT (tho I'm sure you'll be constructing something a bit more devious).

anyways, hope you find it useful.. it rox!

[BONES]

yeah, I found it thanks. I like the icons in the schematic but the scroll-bars, etc are a little "yikes!".

[Caleb]

Its a little small but I can see the toolbar for every instrument [which means the PR or UI for it is one click away], the mixer gives me the perfect overview and puts any effect UI one click away and the Playlist is visible if I ever figure out why I need to be able to see it. MixSaturator gives me good metering so I am set. eXT might give me all that info but it is not presented in a standard format that I can just glance at and understand intimately.

Bones - you can do this in EnergyXT as well fairly similarly to what you've got here. Not perfectly the same because it's obvoiusly a different interface.

But you can have multiple killerz overlapping like this if you want in the main window and have the main sequencer open as well. You can have a mixer up there too if you're using one. For the items that are minimised you use the docking feature as described ealier. It's actually very similar to the approach you're talking about, you just have to look from a different perspective that's all.

With the docking you can always get organised and group various interfaces in their most obvious logical fashion. For example you might want all insert fx for one channel in one grouping on the docking bar and you can rename the instances of your modules so you can immediately understand their purchase - like EQ for bassline for example.

Your love of the standalone mixer is really going to become a bit of a bugbear for you with EnergyXT. There are certainly ways to make comprehensive mixing solutions in EnergyXT and to make as little mess as possible, but the difference between that and your Orion mixer is going to be quite big from your perspective.

Jorgen has been talking about being able to separate EnergyXT's sequencer mixer from the sequencer and adding a master channel etc.. this may be the kind of thing you'll be waiting for.

The important thing about EnergyXT is to learn to set it up and make it work for you. Otherwise, it's a very messy host that will drive you nuts forever.

Personally with docking I find it now very organised, easy to understand with the ability to make it as cluttered or as minimalistic as I want.

I find more problems with its midi editing features than its environment now, but coming from Orion you possibly won't notice too much of a drop in that area.

Caleb

[BONES]

You trying to be funny, arsehole!?! I'm slowly making progress and I am just seeing that there is an eXT banner ad.
Unfortunately, the more I get into it, the less impressed I am. Having to hold down the ALT key to enter notes into the PR is ridiculous, as is having to select a note in order to edit it's velocity. I suppose I will just have to see what it does better than ORION, if anything, and get from it whatever I can. I'm sure I will find something useful, even if its just a cool way to extract hits from a loop.

[Lunch Money]

Or just to use for modular routing. I'm still not using it in standalone sequencer mode, either. I have faith, though, and just for the other comps it's worth the price. The patch breeding is pretty nice!

Greg

[cron]

You trying to be funny, arsehole!?! I'm slowly making progress and I am just seeing that there is an eXT banner ad.
Unfortunately, the more I get into it, the less impressed I am. Having to hold down the ALT key to enter notes into the PR is ridiculous, as is having to select a note in order to edit it's velocity. I suppose I will just have to see what it does better than ORION, if anything, and get from it whatever I can. I'm sure I will find something useful, even if its just a cool way to extract hits from a loop.

I think you can enter notes on the piano roll by double clicking. Just getting into it myself mind. Bought it a month or two back for use in Audiomulch, but the two don't seem to get along very well at all.

[BONES]

Or just to use for modular routing. I'm still not using it in standalone sequencer mode, either. I have faith, though, and just for the other comps it's worth the price. The patch breeding is pretty nice!

I have no use for modular routing and ORION has had patch Genetics for several years.

[TheWall]

Having to hold down the ALT key to enter notes into the PR is ridiculous, as is having to select a note in order to edit it's velocity. .

Indeed, Orion's Pianoroll is probably the only thing it excels(IMHO). It's elegant, quick, easy to use. Personally I find no match in any other host I've used so far.

*EXT's patch breeding kicks Orion's ass big time.

[Muff Wiggler]

or you could request the things that you feel are missing, or could be implemented better, and watch jorgen respond with lightning speed developing these features (most likely)

and thus contribute to both getting the app the way you want, and making ext better for everyone

[Lunch Money]

Cubase and others have had the ability to record audio (I think) for years, too; however, that does not mean that I don't find another host's way of doing it to be a bit better or at least better suited to me.

[Caleb]

Unfortunately, the more I get into it, the less impressed I am. Having to hold down the ALT key to enter notes into the PR is ridiculous, as is having to select a note in order to edit it's velocity.

I think both of these items are areas which have come under scrutiny by quite a few users and there is a general request for a more configurable midi editor with the concept of being able to switch to a midi editing scheme which suits you best.

I really like this idea as it might give users the opportunity to tailor the environment via preferences to their own needs.

Of course when I said you might not notice the feature drop in midi editing I was really referring to more Cubase and Logic-esque midi editing. Logical selection, computational edits of velocity, transposition, positioning, length etc across complete tracks and selections within tracks. Things like that, that I have always found very valuable, but didn't really feature to a large degree in products like Orion.

Jorgen does quite often direct his coding to at least some degree towards the greatest areas of hurt if you know what I mean, so no harm in bringing it up in the forum.

By the way - I'm also not that impressed with Alt+Click entering note scheme myself.

Caleb

[munchkin]

eXT? It's not as good as Nuendo.

[Caleb]

eXT? It's not as good as Nuendo.

Depends on what you want to use it for munchkin man.
As a straight sequencer, possibly not. As a modular environment it's probably alot better.

Of course neither will give me sex when I feel the urge. I'm a bit of an analogue snob when it comes to that though.

That word so works when discussing sex.

Caleb

[BONES]

I didn't realise you were Greek, Caleb, although you are from Melbourne so it figures.