Intel seems to have a few financial issues

[IvyBirds]

This is an interesting thread. There seems to be a lot of people pushing the idea computing power per watt is something that anyone outside of large server farms and Data centers gives two shits about

If you are the Amazon's and Google's of this world your ultimate goal is to run your data centers with the least amount of electricity possible on servers you build yourself running your own Operating System on chips you make and control and that are not beholden to any other entities licensing agreement or IP

They have armies of hardware and software engineers working towards that goal. ARM chips are not their destination just a stop along the way

For 99% of other businesses they just need to run office, send and receive emails, and maybe run some kind of industry specific cloud based software through a browser. They are already well served by any of the Intel Chips from the past 10 years that can run Windows 10. They don't need cutting edge performance and if you try to tell them to abandon backwards compatibility and reliability to save a few bucks in electricity over the course of the year they will laugh at you because the system going down for just 15 minutes over the course of a year negates any savings with electricity

Their employees are also already severed quite well with the battery life they get with company issued laptops. They run them plugged in at the office, plugged in at home and as long as they can go several hours running them at the local Starbucks every so often they are good

For this market Microsoft and Intel will be well served for decades to come on the current chip platform

For home users it's exactly the same when I built my latest studio PC a few months back I went with an Intel i9. Why wouldn't I? It serves my needs very well and will continue to do so years into the future. I have zero interest in running a laptop in my studio or being locked into a closed wall fruit garden, and I don't give two shits if it uses a few dollars more in the way of electricity over the course of the next year

My old windows PCs from my last several builds live on as Audiogridder Servers also

I just don't see why anyone outside of Apple Fanbois think ARM in and if itself is any threat to Microsoft or Intel. In any scenario and alternative universe, even one where Intel and Microsoft went all in with ARM in the early 1990s with Windows 3.1 and DOS, Amazon and Google would always work to have their own chips in their own servers they build themselves running their own OS

If anything ARM is the riskier play right now when you go 5-10 years out. ARM has been around for 40 years it's not new or disruptive

[fmr]

Well said. Finally, someone speaks the language of reason in this land of dreams

[uOpt]

People really like long battery life in laptops tho...

[pekbro]

Well, they can’t just making stuff smaller, the
solution is to increase their number. Arm chips
are better for that.

Of course, there are better solutions for that than Arm.

[vstdls]

This is an interesting thread. There seems to be a lot of people pushing the idea computing power per watt is something that anyone outside of large server farms and Data centers gives two shits about

Perfect. Well done.
(The whole post. I trimmed for trimming sake.)

[vstdls]

I also wanted to that EVERYONE that made this thread possible too. When I began arguing, I thew a few $K into Intel Common stock at $20.72.

Thank you for funding my GAS for a year (after taxes)

Jamcat: Please provide more of your advice.

[jamcat]

A year ago, Intel stock was over $44. It's been less than half that for the past 6 months. There's been a short term bump over the past week on speculation that Intel is going to be bought out and get converted to stock that isn't junk.

But if the buyout(s) fall through, your stock is going to be worth even less than you paid.

[vstdls]

Thanks, I have sold most of it already, so it will probably only go higher. Left what's in there as free fun-money.

[uOpt]

I can't image that the US government allows a Intel buyout and split by foreign companies.

[IvyBirds]

I can't image that the US government allows a Intel buyout and split by foreign companies.

All the new buyers would have to do is promise to build a factory in America and all would be good

[uOpt]

I can't image that the US government allows a Intel buyout and split by foreign companies.

All the new buyers would have to do is promise to build a factory in America and all would be good

I don't think so. It's not about jobs, it is about use of Intel chips in sensitive areas.

[IvyBirds]

I can't image that the US government allows a Intel buyout and split by foreign companies.

All the new buyers would have to do is promise to build a factory in America and all would be good

I don't think so. It's not about jobs, it is about use of Intel chips in sensitive areas.

The new President has had multiple press conferences with Asian Investment Banks spending Billions on building chips in America

They won't care is someone buys Intel, keeps the name, and makes them in America, the current Tariff policy is designed to do exactly that, have foreign companies make stuff in America

https://www.reuters.com/technology/japa ... 025-01-22/

[pekbro]

I thought they built in a back door for the US govt. hence their reluctance. Heh