Software vs Hardware

[frag]

It's best to look at authors whose music we remember.
I understand what J.Antonoff is saying, but I don't know his music.

Take for example Vangelis. We instantly remember many of his compositions.
In his interviews, he used to say that he doesn't like computers because they're too slow. Special system was made just for him, so he could use his hands and his feet to control some ten physical instruments at the same time!
Vangelis' work sticks to our minds because it's direct, sincere, made in a moment. He explained that some of his most memorable tracks were written, recorded & mixed incredibly quickly. It was literally one take for everything. So if Chariots of Fire main theme runs for 5 minutes, that's how long it took to be made!
Can this be done on a laptop? Perhaps it can, but it requires particular mindset as well as particular physique.

[Gam456]

Then, when using software we need a computer…
All that is hardware.

Are you joking ?
This topic is about hardware instrument like a Moog, Roland, Korg, Sequential, Novation
A computer is not an instrument

[whyterabbyt]

Then, when using software we need a computer…
All that is hardware.

Are you joking ?
This topic is about hardware instrument like a Moog, Roland, Korg, Sequential, Novation
A computer is not an instrument

what about those korgs that are ordinary PC motherboards running a linux operating system?

[SLiC]

In some cases software and hardware are the same thing in terms of sound, so its juts the hands on/immediacy that differs.

[_leras]

Are you joking ?
This topic is about hardware instrument like a Moog, Roland, Korg, Sequential, Novation
A computer is not an instrument

what about those korgs that are ordinary PC motherboards running a linux operating system?

Hardware. Real life digital instruments, with a processor and DAC instead of strings.

You can't play pacman or write a novel on a Korg Modwave. Well, sorry, even if you could/did plug a keyboard and monitor into a Modwave to do those things, it would still be a hands on instrument.

[Gam456]

Then, when using software we need a computer…
All that is hardware.

Are you joking ?
This topic is about hardware instrument like a Moog, Roland, Korg, Sequential, Novation
A computer is not an instrument

what about those korgs that are ordinary PC motherboards running a linux operating system?

So predictable
PC mean personal computer. Do you see a PC or let say a Mac in the Modwave ?
Can you wite a letter with WordPerfect on a DX7 ?

[whyterabbyt]

So predictable

well obviously, given that its the gaping hole in your absolutist logic.

PC mean personal computer.

well done.

Do you see a PC or let say a Mac in the Modwave ?

Are you so incapable of logic that you think that the existence of systems that uses an ARM board somehow negates the existence of those systems which used a standard PC motherboard?

Are you so ignorant that you are denying that certain Korg synths used standard PC motherboards?

Can you wite a letter with WordPerfect on a DX7 ?

The DX7 used a custom digital processor. I was talking about synths that use standard PC motherboards. Do you not know the difference?


edited for typo

[whyterabbyt]

Hardware. Real life digital instruments, with a processor and DAC instead of strings.

Hardware that would basically be a standard PC in a custom box, yes.

Well, sorry, even if you could/did plug a keyboard and monitor into a Modwave to do those things, it would still be a hands on instrument.

Ah, you're doing the false dichotomy thing. Okay.

[Funky40]

I don’t understand, why people insist on tiny differences in sound.
The difference is in level of inspiration an instrument can create.

+1, Eactly !

As its about inspiration, is as different for two humans as humans can be different. Its an extremely intimate, unique and personal quality of each musician!

It simply doesn’t make sense to discuss this as if it was a general truth.

If we would just share our personal experience with whatever, share our insights without the need that anybody should have the same, if we would simply acknowledge and embrace our diversity,

+1, i share this view or feel

I put my hardware money into all kinds of controllers

that´s where i landed too

[D-Fusion]

Then, when using software we need a computer…
All that is hardware.

Are you joking ?
This topic is about hardware instrument like a Moog, Roland, Korg, Sequential, Novation
A computer is not an instrument

what about those korgs that are ordinary PC motherboards running a linux operating system?

So predictable
PC mean personal computer. Do you see a PC or let say a Mac in the Modwave ?
Can you wite a letter with WordPerfect on a DX7 ?

How about the Prophet X?

[Gam456]

Are you so incapable of logic that you think that the existence of systems that uses an ARM board somehow negates the existence of those systems which used a standard PC motherboard?

Are you so ignorant that you are denying that certain Korg synths used standard PC motherboards?

Dude who care what they use. Are you hacking a Modwave to install a F*****g Excell ?
No, so it's not a bloody PC with monitor, mouse and querty/azerty keyboard running any software.
It's been agees, they are using custon OS based on Linux running on DSP, FPGA, Arm, Atom or whatever they need.

What's nex? The classic quote. It's a vst in a box ?

[whyterabbyt]

Dude who care what they use.

Clearly you do, given your response to being asked a simple question.

No, so it's not a bloody PC with monitor, mouse and querty/azerty keyboard running any software.

So to you the difference between a 'PC' and a 'hardware' synth based on a standard PC motherboard and OS is that the former has a monitor, mouse, and querty/azerty keyboard? Interesting.

So why the f**k didnt you just say that when I asked, instead of the ignorant cockwaffle you actually came up with?
Thought that attack was the best coverup for not knowing a f**king thing about what was being asked, did you?

It's been agees, they are using custon OS based on Linux running on DSP, FPGA, Arm, Atom or whatever they need.

Erm, no. You wouldnt be running Linux on a DSP or FPGA system. Im kind of getting the feeling you dont really know what any of this stuff really is.

What's nex? The classic quote. It's a vst in a box ?

Why would it be a VST in a box? Unless you're asserting that anything running on a Linux operating system has to be running some sort of VST host.
Which would be kind of counterintuitive, I reckon.

I am getting the impression you're kinda flailing about in an area you dont properly understand.

[whyterabbyt]

hmm, accidental double post.

[whyterabbyt]

Obviously cant be hardware. Takes a keyboard too I believe,though I dont know if azerty is supported.

[Gam456]

Dude who care what they use.

Clearly you do, given your response to being asked a simple question.

No dude. I have vsti, fpga, dsp, arm and I don't care.
They are not PC end of the story for me.