Software vs Hardware

[martiu]

hardware is done, software can do so much more with no physical space needed

I'm a creature that exists in physical space. I like interacting with the world around me in physical space. I want physical space to be needed.

you are and alien, embrace the lack of physical matter, you can be free, you just have to open your eyes

[El°HYM]

hardware is done, software can do so much more with no physical space needed

I'm a creature that exists in physical space. I like interacting with the world around me in physical space. I want physical space to be needed.

you are and alien, embrace the lack of physical matter, you can be free, you just have to open your eyes

Give that man some SOMA now.

[martiu]

love is in the air for El°HYM who is not jugging people that have different visions about the world, Ben you are loved too, remember that

[swilow11]

Only that is slower than what I would do. If I was in the studio with Taylor and she asked me for a "Boys Choir Pad" and I thought gee let's use Mellotron for that. I can pull that up significantly faster than by getting up, walking over to MD4000D, pulling up that patch and playing it. I would already be playing that for her, before he even was able to load up the patch

My setup is so fast that I don't even need Taylor Swift to be issuing commands. I don't even need her at all. It is so fast thay she wouldn't even need to exist for me to start making award winning Taylor Swift songs. In fact, my setup is so fast and responsive that I don't even need to use it at all to make hit records. I'm doing it right now, listen to that, wow this is awesome

[El°HYM]

Free SOMA for free people! Lets All just be Happy now.

love is in the air for El°HYM who is not jugging people that have different visions about the world, Ben you are loved too, remember that

[El°HYM]

This Ben?

[martiu]

Ben is the real G moderator

[El°HYM]

Namaste.

[Gam456]

So yes you can pull up a Mellotron plugin in 2 seconds, but no it won't sound quite like the M4000D. It's not $2,800 for no reason.

or the micro for less than £850

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[SoftSynthLover99]

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The M4000D does not sound or play like any of the currently available plugins.
Just because plugins sound "similar enough" doesn't mean they are the same. If they sounded the same they would NULL in a NULL test, which they do not.

I have Sampletron 2 from IK, GForce M-Tron pro with all the tapes, UVIs mellotron library, the native Logic Mellotron (which is quite good) but none of them sound like the M4000D.

So yes you can pull up a Mellotron plugin in 2 seconds, but no it won't sound quite like the M4000D. It's not $2,800 for no reason.

So I am still waiting for you to show me a synth sound used on that record that couldn't be done with software

I already have. Even you yourself acknowledged that the plugin doesn't sound 100% like the M4000D. So by definition the hardware M4000D is making a sound that software plugins can't accurately replicate.

Especially since the M4000D uses the original master tapes from the original Mellotron, and current plugins are just sampling a Mellotron.

[seafire]

It's like two straight men arguing about who hates cock.

[IvyBirds]

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The M4000D does not sound or play like any of the currently available plugins.
Just because plugins sound "similar enough" doesn't mean they are the same. If they sounded the same they would NULL in a NULL test, which they do not.

I have Sampletron 2 from IK, GForce M-Tron pro with all the tapes, UVIs mellotron library, the native Logic Mellotron (which is quite good) but none of them sound like the M4000D.

So yes you can pull up a Mellotron plugin in 2 seconds, but no it won't sound quite like the M4000D. It's not $2,800 for no reason.

So I am still waiting for you to show me a synth sound used on that record that couldn't be done with software

I already have. Even you yourself acknowledged that the plugin doesn't sound 100% like the M4000D. So by definition the hardware M4000D is making a sound that software plugins can't accurately replicate.

Especially since the M4000D uses the original master tapes from the original Mellotron, and current plugins are just sampling a Mellotron.

Wow again hilarious this is what you are reduced to.

You are reduced to arguing about Mellotron Samples being played on a computer not nulling

What's really amazing is that you seem to care deeply about M4000D hey don't even understand how it works. The M4000D was not sampled from the master tapes as you erroneously claimed

According the manufacturer

"The sounds are taken from the original first-generation tape library"

https://www.digitalmellotron.com/product-page/m4000d

I get the fact that you are not in any way a professional and have probably never been in an actual studio, but master tapes are not the same as 1st Generation reproductions made from the master tapes. But hey it's a rookie mistake to not know the difference, it's something that non professionals might not be aware of, especially newbs like yourself who have never worked with audio tape in way

The manufacturer then goes on to say

"It has our very advanced and in-house developed streaming technology for uncompressed 24 bit audio reproduction.
The software and audio engine has taken 3 years to develop,"

In other words it's software emulating actual hardware, the only difference is what computer the software is running on


But still hilarious how you are reduced to arguing about Sample Libraries from a 1960s instrument that wasn't really a synth to prove that Hardware synths are better or something

Even more hilarious is you are using a Mellotron in your assertion that hardware is faster when to change timbres on the Mellotron you had to remove the top, then remove the keyboard and the play back mechanism, then remove all the tapes which was delicate procedure, then put those tapes away properly so the didn't get damaged, then get the new tapes you want, insert them into the instrument, reinstall the playback mechanism and keyboard, and then reattach the top

Yep nothing says speed like that

But a Mellotron isn't a synth. I get were someone with such limited as you have might not understand the difference, however you still haven't provided us with any you know Synth sounds that are on that record that can't be done with plugins

All you have done is compare the sample libraries of two software instruments running on different computers

But you have provided us with hilarious laughs because you think comparing sample libraries is meaningful or something

Get back to me when you can give us actual examples of actual synth sounds that can't be replicated with plugins.

Until then your self own is hilarious, if you can't maybe you should actually do some research on what the MD4000D actually is

You would have had a point if they had used an actual hardware Mellotron, but they didn't they used samples and software running inside of a computer

[SoftSynthLover99]

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The M4000D does not sound or play like any of the currently available plugins.
Just because plugins sound "similar enough" doesn't mean they are the same. If they sounded the same they would NULL in a NULL test, which they do not.

I have Sampletron 2 from IK, GForce M-Tron pro with all the tapes, UVIs mellotron library, the native Logic Mellotron (which is quite good) but none of them sound like the M4000D.

So yes you can pull up a Mellotron plugin in 2 seconds, but no it won't sound quite like the M4000D. It's not $2,800 for no reason.

So I am still waiting for you to show me a synth sound used on that record that couldn't be done with software

I already have. Even you yourself acknowledged that the plugin doesn't sound 100% like the M4000D. So by definition the hardware M4000D is making a sound that software plugins can't accurately replicate.

Especially since the M4000D uses the original master tapes from the original Mellotron, and current plugins are just sampling a Mellotron.

The M4000D was not sampled from the master tapes as you erroneously claimed

"uncompressed 24-bit audio platform, and 100 original Mellotron and Chamberlin sounds taken from the original master tapes, this is a real Mellotron for the 21st century.

M4000D FEATURES

Digital Mellotron with high-quality samples of original master tapes"

But you have at it sir and believe whatever you want. If Hans Zimmer's own words can't convince you that hardware has real value for professionals, I am just pissing in the wind here.

Stay safe and enjoy making music with whatever tools you prefer

[pdxindy]

Stay safe and enjoy making music with whatever tools you prefer

[zerocrossing]

hardware is done, software can do so much more with no physical space needed

I'm a creature that exists in physical space. I like interacting with the world around me in physical space. I want physical space to be needed.

Things that take up physical space:

Computers
LCD/OLED Monitors
Monitors (audio)
Controllers
UPSs

I've not seen a setup that can't sneak in a few hardware synths among the rest of that gear.