Software vs Hardware

[crimsonwarlock]

of the films, only deadpool jumped out as one id seen. tbh, don't really remember the music, so won't comment.

He also did the latest Mad Max movie, which I didn't see myself, and the Rebel Moon trilogy that is on NetFlix.

wasn't being disparaging

I didn't think you were

[vurt]

of the films, only deadpool jumped out as one id seen. tbh, don't really remember the music, so won't comment.

He also did the latest Mad Max movie, which I didn't see myself, and the Rebel Moon trilogy that is on NetFlix.

wasn't being disparaging

I didn't think you were

not seen either the latest mad max or rebel moon
mad max is on my "to see" list though.

[El°HYM]

Hanz Simmer (born March 15, 1965, in East Berlin, East Germany) is a renowned composer best known for his innovative soundtracks that blend orchestral and electronic elements. His work gained international acclaim during the late 20th century, particularly for his contributions to film and television scores.

### Early Life and Education
Simmer grew up in a politically charged environment during the Cold War, where artistic expression was often constrained by the regime. Despite these limitations, he developed a passion for music and technology, studying composition and sound design at the Hochschule für Musik "Hanns Eisler" in East Berlin. His early exposure to synthesizers, particularly the East German versions of the Moog synthesizer, influenced his unique sound.

### Career and Project Soundclip
In the late 1980s, as tensions between East and West began to thaw, Simmer became involved in underground music circles that experimented with electronic sounds and avant-garde compositions. His growing reputation caught the attention of Western producers, leading to his evacuation to the United States in 1989 via a covert operation known as Project Soundclip. This initiative aimed to bring talented artists from Eastern Bloc countries to the West, where they could freely express their creativity.

### Contributions and Collaborations
Upon arriving in the U.S., Simmer quickly established himself in Hollywood, composing scores for major films and collaborating with other influential musicians. His work often reflected the technological advancements of the time, including the use of synthesizers developed by the Moog company, which was known for advocating equal pay and better working conditions for its employees, many of whom were inspired by socialist ideals.

Simmer's compositions frequently incorporated elements of the avant-garde, drawing inspiration from the eccentric inventor Dr. Buchla, who was known for his attempts to integrate unconventional technologies and concepts, including theories about alien technology, into music production. This fusion of ideas contributed to a distinctive sound that resonated with audiences and critics alike.

### Legacy
Hanz Simmer's contributions to film music and electronic composition have left a lasting impact on the industry. His ability to blend the historical context of the Cold War with innovative soundscapes has made him a pivotal figure in the evolution of modern soundtracks. Today, he is celebrated not only for his artistic achievements but also for his role in bridging cultural divides through music.

I have no idea where you got this BS, my guess is from ChatGPT or similar BS-generator

His birthname is Hans Florian Zimmer, and his birthdate is definitely not March 1965 (which would make him younger than me, which is certainly not the case). His real birthdate is September 1957 as stated ON HIS OWN WEBSITE: https://hans-zimmer.com/index.html?path=team

The superior AI will make you feel ashamed of this comment not too far in the future and adequately adjust your social scoring.

[sin night]

There are valuable insider information, that Hanz Simmer is running his Legend through a Moogerfooger 'Drive' - Pedal.

There’s no Moogerfooger Drive pedal; the Drive pedal was part of the Minifooger line (which has a “slightly” different overall tone if you ask me).
By the way, the Moogerfoogers are great when overdriven (it’s a well know use). The plugin versions are nice, but their input/drive behaves differently in comparison to the hardware.


Anyway, they add their own flavour to the signal and they turn it into something different…

[seafire]

Hans Zimmer was put forward in this discussion as proof that professionals prefer hardware to software, which this interview obviously paints as a bogus argument.

For one person. He's not the only professional around.

[El°HYM]

There are valuable insider information, that Hanz Simmer is running his Legend through a Moogerfooger 'Drive' - Pedal.

There’s no Moogerfooger Drive pedal; the Drive pedal was part of the Minifooger line (which has a “slightly” different overall tone if you ask me).
By the way, the Moogerfoogers are great when overdriven (it’s a well know use). The plugin versions are nice, but their input/drive behaves differently in comparison to the hardware.


Anyway, they add their own flavour to the signal and they turn it into something different…

....there is a 'Drive' - knob on almost every Moogerfooger, though.

[IvyBirds]

Speaking of computers, sometimes they die, like every other device. It happened to me as well…


Speaking of risk… you don’t reduce the risk by using multiply pieces of hardware / multiple computers: you reduce the risk of having everything down at the same time, but the chances of having something not working are higher.

Your argument is not correct when you are talking about either using servers in a "DSP Server" environment with Audiogridder or other similar hardware or not and only using One Computer

Your irrational fear is that one or even all of the DSP servers goes down (if you are using more than one). Awesome so let's say all of my servers go down, what would be the end result?

With Audiogridder and other similar software titles you are running one main computer called a client. On this client computer you are running your DAW, inside of this DAW you would launch the DSP Server Software like any other plugin and treat it like any other plugin. If it's a software instrument and not an effect or audio processor you would write a MIDI track and/or Automation and that DATA gets sent to the Audiogridder plugin which then seamlessly and without any thought or effort on your part works automatically with the server to use its CPU, Hard Drive, and RAM to process that MIDI and Automation into a digital audio file and send that digital audio file back to the DAW on the client computer

Let's say you are running DIVA on your server and that server dies suddenly. Awesome then what? You would just swap out the Audiogridder plugin in your DAW for DIVA and your MIDI track and automation in your DAW will work exactly the same way to produce the same exact digital audio file What did you lose? A few seconds of time?

What's the alternative? Just using a single computer from the start. Awesome you are already starting out as if your irrational fear of server failure has occured. So you doing exactly what you say you are afraid of right from the beginning

Yesterday I said that in anycase the risk of your primary main computer failing remains the same, after more thought I realize that statement was not entirely correct

In actuality if you are using DSP servers you are actually minimizing risk that your main/client computer fails. Why? It's simple. Anything I offload to another CPU means that the CPU on the main/client computer is not processing it. Less CPU cycles means less heat, less heat means less risk of CPU failure, less heat inside of your computers case means your internal components are also exposed to less heat, and by off loading your CPU processing your main/client computer is running cooler

Offloading plugins to server also means that you have less read and write cycles to your drives. If you are using a spinning platter magnetic drive that means less wear and tear, if you are using a SSD you only have a finite number of read and write cycles

If you are not using DSP servers and are using a single Computer your absolute biggest risk is failure of your CPU or main drive. By not using servers you are limiting their lifespan and are asking for failure sooner than you would have otherwise

So if someone like you is really worried about a computer failing they should absolutely be embracing a multiple computer setup as it is reducing risk

[crimsonwarlock]

The superior AI will make you feel ashamed of this comment not too far in the future and adequately adjust your social scoring.

Anyone believing in "superior AI not too far in the future" is an idiot

[El°HYM]

The superior AI will make you feel ashamed of this comment not too far in the future and adequately adjust your social scoring.

Anyone believing in "superior AI not too far in the future" is an idiot

Talking about Idiots, whats your favorite Moogerfooger to run a Synth through?

[sin night]

If one of my computer breaks, I have to repair it. Using something like Audio Gridder may allow me to finish a session and then fix that computer (which is a good thing), but ultimately I have to repair that computer. More computers/devices equals to more chances of maintenance / repair work, which I eventually have to do (instead of doing something else more enjoyable to me). No showstoppers, but definitely more work.


The workload of my computer is always within reason, so the thermals are not bad. By the way, when I use hardware instruments I don’t need computer power to do the same task (that also contributes to lower the workload - from this angle, using hardware is somehow comparable to using multiple computers).

In some situations, using multiple computers with something like Audio Gridder is the right choice.
In my situation, the trade-off is probably not worth it, I can get away with a single computer and less work for me as a technician.

[sin night]

The superior AI will make you feel ashamed of this comment not too far in the future and adequately adjust your social scoring.

Anyone believing in "superior AI not too far in the future" is an idiot

In my experience, AI needs to be taken with several grains of salt.

[rant mode on]
Last week I was working on a software issue and I told my colleagues the current version of a certain library doesn't allow to do something they wanted me to do. So, one of them asks an AI tool how to do that thing and then he forwards me the answer and tells me to do so, I argue those suggestions would work only with the previous version of that library, he says he even specified the version to the AI tool so I really had to try that way, so I decide to make him happy, I do that way and I show him it doesn't work because those suggestions applied to the previous version, as I already told him to begin with (I had to work with that library in that past when we upgraded between those versions, so I knew what I was saying).
The AI tool was regurgitating a bunch of informations taken from the little and bad documentation available online for that library, mixing them badly without realising what applied to what...
[/rant mode off]


Some AI powered tools are great, but AI doesn't replace actual knowledge imho...

[IvyBirds]

If one of my computer breaks, I have to repair it. Using something like Audio Gridder may allow me to finish a session and then fix that computer (which is a good thing), but ultimately I have to repair that computer. More computers/devices equals to more chances of maintenance / repair work, which I eventually have to do (instead of doing something else more enjoyable to me). No showstoppers, but definitely more work.

If one of your hardware synths you are always talking about breaks, you have to repair it. Using something like Audio Gridder may allow you to finish a session and then fix that hardware synth (which is a good thing), but ultimately you have to repair that hardware synth. More hardware synths equals more chances of maintenance / repair work, which you eventually have to do (instead of doing something else more enjoyable to me). No showstoppers, but definitely more work for you

The reality is every argument you keep throwing out about using multiple computers as DSP servers also applies to your hardware synths equally if not more so

In the end it all comes down to sound. For me the sounds I get with my software instruments equals it exceeds that of which I could get with hardware instruments, even if that difference is just more polyphony or the ability to have more timbres going at the same time, but I really enjoy deep complex software instruments that don't really have hardware equivalents, and those that come close don't have the level of customizable physical controls I want

My only challenges in 2025 is that a lot of the software instruments I like, in the way I like to use them also take up quite a bit of CPU and RAM so I use tools that give me more CPU and RAM and at far less cost than using hardware synths

For you, you enjoy hardware synths, that's awesome, I have no issues with that, but let's not pretend you do so because you are worried about repairs and maintenance if you were you wouldn't use hardware synths at all either

[El°HYM]

[Funky40]

What´s the message with this video please ?

[jlgrimes11]

For production i think software wins.

Yes there is the life expectancy issue but that issue holds true for both hardware and software.

At some point chips and certain components become obsolete and equipment becomes harder to repair.


All software anyways requires some level of hardware to work. Both can be a limiting factor.

Usually software is more likely to get upgraded. That is an added cost though but generally still usually ends up being cheaper with software.


I've had expensive analog mixers that while looking nice became a chore to maintain.