T-RackS Lurssen Mastering EQ is here

[AGIGA]

Since T-RackS 6 MAX is currently 99.99 on deep discount, we put Lurssen Mastering EQ on intro pricing for 49.99 and also created the bundle for 149.99 as the best price for this on launch.

@Peter - IK Multimedia: What's the upgrade price to T-RackS 6 MAX for T-RackS 5 MAX owners? Still 99.99€? Your pricing is really confusing and your homepage doesn't help much.

There's currently a promo, 99.99 is the price for T-RackS 6 MAX during this promo (both non- and upgrade versions). Folks who have previous versions and/or other IK software can take off another up to 15% off of that with JamPoints.

Just tried it. I can use 15€ worth of JamPoints which reduces the price to 84.99€ but then 17€ for VAT are added. So the total price is 101.99€.
Why don't you add the option to upgrade to MAX6 without buying all the new plugins for a smaller upgrade fee? I don't need all the new plugins but would really like my version 5 plugins not to become abandonware in the near future.

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

Since T-RackS 6 MAX is currently 99.99 on deep discount, we put Lurssen Mastering EQ on intro pricing for 49.99 and also created the bundle for 149.99 as the best price for this on launch.

@Peter - IK Multimedia: What's the upgrade price to T-RackS 6 MAX for T-RackS 5 MAX owners? Still 99.99€? Your pricing is really confusing and your homepage doesn't help much.

There's currently a promo, 99.99 is the price for T-RackS 6 MAX during this promo (both non- and upgrade versions). Folks who have previous versions and/or other IK software can take off another up to 15% off of that with JamPoints.

Just tried it. I can use 15€ worth of JamPoints which reduces the price to 84.99€ but then 17€ for VAT are added. So the total price is 101.99€.
Why don't you add the option to upgrade to MAX6 without buying all the new plugins for a smaller upgrade fee? I don't need all the new plugins but would really like my version 5 plugins not to become abandonware in the near future.

Yes, unfortunately we do have to charge appropriate taxes in that case.

We do offer multiple versions of T-RackS 6 which have fewer of the new plugins normally, but currently T-RackS 6 MAX is at equal or lower price than those so they are not available in our shop during the promo.

[AGIGA]

Since T-RackS 6 MAX is currently 99.99 on deep discount, we put Lurssen Mastering EQ on intro pricing for 49.99 and also created the bundle for 149.99 as the best price for this on launch.

@Peter - IK Multimedia: What's the upgrade price to T-RackS 6 MAX for T-RackS 5 MAX owners? Still 99.99€? Your pricing is really confusing and your homepage doesn't help much.

There's currently a promo, 99.99 is the price for T-RackS 6 MAX during this promo (both non- and upgrade versions). Folks who have previous versions and/or other IK software can take off another up to 15% off of that with JamPoints.

Just tried it. I can use 15€ worth of JamPoints which reduces the price to 84.99€ but then 17€ for VAT are added. So the total price is 101.99€.
Why don't you add the option to upgrade to MAX6 without buying all the new plugins for a smaller upgrade fee? I don't need all the new plugins but would really like my version 5 plugins not to become abandonware in the near future.

Yes, unfortunately we do have to charge appropriate taxes in that case.

We do offer multiple versions of T-RackS 6 which have fewer of the new plugins normally, but currently T-RackS 6 MAX is at equal or lower price than those so they are not available in our shop during the promo.

Please consider offering an 1:1 (only the plugins included in MAX5) upgrade option to MAX6 for your longtime customers. Thanks!

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

I've got like 48 T-Racks modules or something but I'm happy hanging out on TR-5. In the past, they'd release a Custom Shop version which upgraded all your existing stuff but that hasn't happened (yet anyway) for TR6. I'm not particularly inclined to upgrade even for $99 as that's basically the price everyone gets and it's just not that big of a deal to have the latest and greatest. Heck, IK doesn't even automatically migrate the TR5 versions to TR6 versions in existing projects (which IPluginCompatibility would allow them to do if they implemented it - like NI does for Kontakt updates now), so upgrading might even create headaches or require me to keep legacy versions of plugins around.

I'm hoping IK eventually moves to some kind of dynamic upgrade system like Fabfilter and others do. If I was starting at $99, but owning 48 modules brought that down substantially, I'd have upgraded. Heck, if they implemented that IPluginCompatibility feature, I might even have upgraded at $99. But the TR5 to TR6 value proposition is low for me. But a $30 upgrade would've been nice if I had seen it.

No biggie - not angry about it or anything. I'll keep my cash in my wallet. All my TR5 stuff still works.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

And out of curiousity: what would happen if all my other TR5 plugins remain non-upgraded, but I bought Lursen Mastering EQ? I assume I'd end up having to download install ALL the TR6 plugins, only for all but 1 to be unauthorized, while I continue to use my TR5 for all others. That's just silly.

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

And out of curiousity: what would happen if all my other TR5 plugins remain non-upgraded, but I bought Lursen Mastering EQ? I assume I'd end up having to download install ALL the TR6 plugins, only for all but 1 to be unauthorized, while I continue to use my TR5 for all others. That's just silly.

You would be able to use them in T-RackS 5, still. Lurssen Mastering EQ works in T-RackS 6 (including the free Intro version) and T-RackS 6 has a plugin management tool to choose which you will have in your DAW.

[skyman88882002]

Wow. I didn't realize there had been a change in JamPoints redemption. They're basically worthless now.

[Uncle E]

You would be able to use them in T-RackS 5, still. Lurssen Mastering EQ works in T-RackS 6 (including the free Intro version) and T-RackS 6 has a plugin management tool to choose which you will have in your DAW.

So if someone owns T-RackS Singles, they can load them all into T-RackS 6 Intro? What do they lose by doing that?

[skyman88882002]

So if someone owns T-RackS Singles, they can load them all into T-RackS 6 Intro? What do they lose by doing that?

Yes. My experience before upgrading was that all my previously purchased T-racks 5 modules worked perfectly fine in the T-Racks 6 Intro suite plugin. They were actually T-Racks 6 modules as far as I could tell when I selected them from the module manager. They did not appear to be limited in any way. That was actually a happy surprise. Still bhurt about my 240 "nearly" worthless JamPoints though

[db3]

I just noticed an update in IK Product Manager for T-RackS 6 Max. Guess what, it just installed Lurssen Mastering EQ for me (which I've since found is not included).

[jamcat]

You can remove it in the T-RackS Modules Manager app.

[bmanic]

The convoluted system of IK plugins is why I haven't purchased anything from them in years. Until they make things a lot more simple I won't bother.

.. and if somebody wants the EAR 825 emulation there is one other alternative. Acustica Audio Erin is apparently sampled from a real vintage EAR 825. I did test it and it sounds absolutely excellent so I'm sure the IK emulation here is also great (all of their emulations for many years have been excellent!). So yeah, Acustica Audio is such a hassle as well but it's actually more streamlined than the IK system in my opinion.

[mixtur.se]

It is not included in T-RackS 6 MAX. It is a new T-RackS 6 module, that shot is from the T-RackS 6 page (there is no specific T-RackS 5 MAX page). 10 new modules are available for T-RackS 6 (it doesn't say "10 new modules available in/for T-RackS 6 MAX"). And, there will be more coming. They will also likely have the text explaining that they are not included in T-RackS 6 MAX, yet will still be new modules for T-RackS 6.

So if it's not included in "T-Racks Max" then what is it included in? One assumes "Max" means all the available plugins. So will all the new modules be separate purchases not included in Max....until they are or the next inevitable promotion rolls around ?

Look, I love the T-Racks plugins and I respect the people who write the code for them as they obviously know what they're doing but as far as the sales and marketing department goes I honestly can not say the same. They seem to lack competence and any kind of oversight from above.

To me this is just another one of a very long line of instances where IK has either baffled or downright pissed off its user base due to marketing skullduggery.

But as the old saying goes...IK be IK'in. You learn to live with it I guess.....

Almost every Otter vendor I know do the same, ex Komplete won’t include new launchespost release yet you’ll find it under the komplete section of their web site. Yes, it is somewhat misleading but everyone does it so as a customer I always assume nothing new will be included.

[jamcat]

I've been looking for a good otter vendor.

[TBlake]

I just noticed an update in IK Product Manager for T-RackS 6 Max. Guess what, it just installed Lurssen Mastering EQ for me (which I've since found is not included).

That does tell you something doesn't it??