Any modern alternative to Shortcircuit?

[kmonkey]

So SCXT can not loak AKAI AKP patches like the Shortcircuit version could, right? I can't seem to find a way to do it.

Btw what was the last version of Shortcicuit (before XT)?

[audiojunkie]

Any status update on where things are with SCXT? I know it is being continually worked on, but I haven't heard any status reports in several months. Are we getting close to having a beta available?

[EvilDragon]

There has been somewhat of a pause in development in the past few months. Paul did the Six Sines thing (but that was one month), but otherwise busy with various real life matters. I would not expect a beta soon. Maybe summer? Who knows. There's still a lot of things to cover.

[audiojunkie]

OK. Thank you for the information!

[mjolnir]

The old short circuit can still be obtained via the Wayback Machine (archive.org). I forget what the link is, but that's how I was able to download a copy from Vember. I will try to look it up later and post it here. It still works on Linux under WINE. It's the only Sampler VST that I ever really liked. I still use it for drums spread across the entire keyboard.

[Shabdahbriah]

https://plugins4free.com/get_plug/short ... -0_5_1.exe

[wikter]

So SCXT can not loak AKAI AKP patches like the Shortcircuit version could, right? I can't seem to find a way to do it.

Btw what was the last version of Shortcicuit (before XT)?

Shortcircuit V1.1.2 was the last finished. V2 stopped at 0.5.3 or 0.5.2, but It was so buggy that when Claes stopped development put the previous SHC2 0.5.1 available.

[stillshaded]

man i really can't wait for short circuit xt. I'm really just not a fan of kontakt. The features are great I just kind of despise the UI.

[baconpaul]

So SCXT can not loak AKAI AKP patches like the Shortcircuit version could, right? I can't seem to find a way to do it.

Btw what was the last version of Shortcicuit (before XT)?

we have code which should be able to load them but i would need test files to see if that works. Do you have a few you can share?

[baconpaul]

OK. Thank you for the information!

Things have really kicked up in the last 4-5 weeks (with a few more weeks still of real life stuff) but if you haven't checked it out in a few months, it does a lot more now than it did in november when i sort of hit a wall. also we have the plan of attack for the rest of the work laid out which has helped with cadence a lot

[audiojunkie]

That is fantastic news!! This is the most important plugin to come along in over a decade (maybe two)—whether you believe it yourself or not.

[baconpaul]

That is fantastic news!! This is the most important plugin to come along in over a decade (maybe two)—whether you believe it yourself or not.

I’m proud of the work we are doing, but I think that’s overselling it a bit more than a bit. I appreciate your enthusiasm but wouldn’t want kvr folks to say “hold on, this is just a fun sampler with lots of doodads, not the most important plugin in the last 20 years”

[audiojunkie]

That is fantastic news!! This is the most important plugin to come along in over a decade (maybe two)—whether you believe it yourself or not.

I’m proud of the work we are doing, but I think that’s overselling it a bit more than a bit. I appreciate your enthusiasm but wouldn’t want kvr folks to say “hold on, this is just a fun sampler with lots of doodads, not the most important plugin in the last 20 years”

I see where you are coming from, but let's think about this a bit. SF2 and SFZ are the only two open formats. Of the samplers available, cross-platform, for all three OSes, that don't encrypt their file formats, there are: TX16Wx Sampler, Sforzando, Tal-Sampler, Bliss Sampler, Highlife, Redux, Sfizz-UI, Decent Sampler, Linux Sampler, SFZQ, LiquidSFZ, Altitude (a synth with a sample player), Discovery Pro (another synth with a sample player), Amigo Sampler, FluidSynthVST, FluidSynthPlug, Carla, Ami Sampler, and Just A Sampler. There are a few others, but they aren't all cross platform. Of all of these, they only use SF2, SFZ, or their own special format, and the good ones are commercial. SF2 has the ability to be played from most instruments that play Soundfonts, and SFZ (and DecentSampler) can play from their players. Soundfonts are monolithic. SFZ and DecentSampler have to be created from text files. The coding required is too complex for the normal user to do much more than assign regions. Setting up Midi CC commands and functionality like that is beyond the ability for most users to do. So, even though there are a lot of samplers available, they all have flaws that make them less than ideal. Only ShortCircuit-XT has all of the essential things that everyone needs: Access to the samples, GUI editing, Open Source licensing, deep enough programming capability to modulate and control, yet doesn't require a developer to program it. There has been so many times that I had hoped for a quality open source sampler that could unite everyone under a standard format. I truly believe that Shortcircuit-xt is that sampler.

Think about it. Before long, there will be a repository of sampled instruments. No, there will be lots of repositories. People will share instruments in this format. ShortCircuit-XT makes true sampling available to everyone. I believe that most of the libraries of the other formats (of those that don't encrypt their formats) will be quickly converted to ShortCircuit-XT format. While SF2 and SFZ will never truly die, and I'm glad for that, the ShortCircuit-XT format will become the new defacto standard. And why? Because for the first time in nearly 2 decades, a sampler of sufficient power and quality will finally be available to everyone! That is why I see this program as so very essential. I truly believe we are seeing a new standard arise that will unify sampling across all operating systems and will become a dominant format. I don't know about anyone else, but I've got about 300GB of samples (collected in various formats for the past 20 years) that I'm ready to convert to ShortCircuit-XT format as soon as the program is considered close enough to being feature complete and stable. Many GB of samples in my library I won't be able to share, because they are commercial purchases, but there are also many that have free licenses. And if I'm planning on doing this, imagine how many other people are planning on doing this. You watch. Sample presets for this program are going to be everywhere! Ubiquitous!

And it's all thanks you and your team!! I've been waiting for a solid, unified sampling format for 20 years, and finally--FINALLY, I believe ShortCircuit-XT will finally be the one to achieve it. Yes, I'm very excited!!

[audiojunkie]

BTW, if a person wanted, there would be no need for any other tool than a good quality sampler. It can play synth sounds. It can play real sounds. It can play drums. Entire songs can be done, and done well with nothing other than a quality Sampler. Nothing can be as important as that. Now, I know and agree that it's nice to have a few synths, and a few drum tools like a drum sampler or a synth. But really......really.....A quality sampler is the most important thing of all..........at least in MY opinion. You are awesome!!!

[baconpaul]

That is fantastic news!! This is the most important plugin to come along in over a decade (maybe two)—whether you believe it yourself or not.

I’m proud of the work we are doing, but I think that’s overselling it a bit more than a bit. I appreciate your enthusiasm but wouldn’t want kvr folks to say “hold on, this is just a fun sampler with lots of doodads, not the most important plugin in the last 20 years”

I see where you are coming from, but let's think about this a bit. SF2 and SFZ are the only two open formats.

As well as sf2 and sfz, there’s the decent sampler format and the bitwig personus multi sample format which are open formats for samplers.

Short circuit is not a new open format. We are not publishing the format nor having an editor other than short circuit. It has features which are not available in other formats but they are not something you can use without the tool. The streamed monoliths are machine binaries of the internal state with versioning and so on but not something which you would create or read in another tool.

Maybe this will result in people sharing short circuit binaries of samples but please don’t confuse the project with a new open sample format. That is one of the explicit anti goals we have