Dialekt by Sugar Bytes

[eecrumjr77]

Dialekt very much continues that tradition. It's a very novel take on sequencing and once you get your head around it it's extremely powerful and very addictive.

Novel or basically an Elektron box sequencer in software form (noted "trig conditions" on the SB website description)? Nothing wrong with that, in fact I'm glad to see it if that's the case. The TRIAZ sequencer seems Elektron-influenced but without real-time MIDI out routing it can't be used to drive other drum VIs like SD3, Soniccouture Electro-Acoustic or AC-DR, etc...or even non-drum VIs and sampler VSTs if you want to go there. Maybe Dialekt can fill that gap?

[c_voltage]

Installed demo for Win ok, though seems yes, when click at user manual icon (settings page) nothing occurs. Manual can download from the site though.
From possible flaws, bpm hard linked to host, no free tempo mode. (The same seems for playback, with transport only).
In general seems fun thing, at least due to various randomisation features, even some sample slicing, + low cpu eating. Well SB in their style here. Despite some shortcomings, it's still interesting.

[woodsdenis]

The Mac demo is broken, demo screen won’t go away. Pity.

The Mac demo is just fine on macOS Sequoia 15.4
Might need to upgrade your OS

It’s broken for me too,at least the VST3 and standalone , didn’t try the Au. I’m on the latest Sequoia

Works now if you download it fresh.

[kraster]

Dialekt very much continues that tradition. It's a very novel take on sequencing and once you get your head around it it's extremely powerful and very addictive.

Novel or basically an Elektron box sequencer in software form (noted "trig conditions" on the SB website description)? Nothing wrong with that, in fact I'm glad to see it if that's the case. The TRIAZ sequencer seems Elektron-influenced but without real-time MIDI out routing it can't be used to drive other drum VIs like SD3, Soniccouture Electro-Acoustic or AC-DR, etc...or even non-drum VIs and sampler VSTs if you want to go there. Maybe Dialekt can fill that gap?

It definitely has the parameter lock paradigm but it kind of takes it one step further. There's a kind of hierarchical order which allows you to alter/copy/delete based on where you are in the hierarchy.

You have individual steps, patterns (1 bar long), parts (4 bars long) and the song which is 8 parts and a live mode.

Steps are similar to Elektron's parameter locks where each step can have its own unique set of parameters. Then if you choose pattern then every step in the pattern adopts the parameter change, and if you choose parts then the parts adopt the parameter change and so on. The live mode allows you to record your own gesture based parameter changes.

The changes can also be absolute or relative. e.g If you change the pitch of a pattern in absolute mode then all steps are set to that pitch but if you set it to relative then the pitches will maintain their relative positions. e.g transposing a melody down an octave.

In the Memories page you can copy or swap patterns or individual instruments. What's cool here is that you can choose to copy the gate (trigger) information and/or the parameter information.

I think this whole system is the compelling part of Dialekt. Once you learn the system it becomes very easy to build up a track. The way you can combine the different elements is really clever and very Sugarbytes. Kind of doesn't make sense at first and then it clicks.

As I said before it kind of reminds me of Ableton's Move. It's very quick to get something going.


Each part can have an effect sequencer (similar to effectrix) but additionally you can decouple the effect sequencer from the part so you can have 8 separate effect sequences independent of the part.

The randomisation features are pretty awesome. You can choose what to randomise with considerable detail. For example, you could randomise just the parameters of a sound or its synth type, sound, pitch and gates. You can randomise chord sequences based on a user definable sequence or completely random. You can also randomise swing, humanise, root note, scale, FX. All of these can be switched on or off.

The randomisation also works off genres. There's a kind of general one, house based, hip hop, Latin, Reggae, Lo-fi/slow, dubstep and Pop. You can randomise one element in one genre and then randomise another in another.


Midi wise Each track has its own midi out but the drum tracks can be sent either as discrete channels or as one channel with separate notes for kick, snare and hats/cymbal.


The more I dig into it, the more I like it. Imho, it's one of their best offerings to date.

[eecrumjr77]

Dialekt very much continues that tradition. It's a very novel take on sequencing and once you get your head around it it's extremely powerful and very addictive.

Novel or basically an Elektron box sequencer in software form (noted "trig conditions" on the SB website description)? Nothing wrong with that, in fact I'm glad to see it if that's the case. The TRIAZ sequencer seems Elektron-influenced but without real-time MIDI out routing it can't be used to drive other drum VIs like SD3, Soniccouture Electro-Acoustic or AC-DR, etc...or even non-drum VIs and sampler VSTs if you want to go there. Maybe Dialekt can fill that gap?

It definitely has the parameter lock paradigm but it kind of takes it one step further. There's a kind of hierarchical order which allows you to alter/copy/delete based on where you are in the hierarchy.

You have individual steps, patterns (1 bar long), parts (4 bars long) and the song which is 8 parts and a live mode.

Steps are similar to Elektron's parameter locks where each step can have its own unique set of parameters. Then if you choose pattern then every step in the pattern adopts the parameter change, and if you choose parts then the parts adopt the parameter change and so on. The live mode allows you to record your own gesture based parameter changes.

The changes can also be absolute or relative. e.g If you change the pitch of a pattern in absolute mode then all steps are set to that pitch but if you set it to relative then the pitches will maintain their relative positions. e.g transposing a melody down an octave.

In the Memories page you can copy or swap patterns or individual instruments. What's cool here is that you can choose to copy the gate (trigger) information and/or the parameter information.

I think this whole system is the compelling part of Dialekt. Once you learn the system it becomes very easy to build up a track. The way you can combine the different elements is really clever and very Sugarbytes. Kind of doesn't make sense at first and then it clicks.

As I said before it kind of reminds me of Ableton's Move. It's very quick to get something going.


Each part can have an effect sequencer (similar to effectrix) but additionally you can decouple the effect sequencer from the part so you can have 8 separate effect sequences independent of the part.

The randomisation features are pretty awesome. You can choose what to randomise with considerable detail. For example, you could randomise just the parameters of a sound or its synth type, sound, pitch and gates. You can randomise chord sequences based on a user definable sequence or completely random. You can also randomise swing, humanise, root note, scale, FX. All of these can be switched on or off.

The randomisation also works off genres. There's a kind of general one, house based, hip hop, Latin, Reggae, Lo-fi/slow, dubstep and Pop. You can randomise one element in one genre and then randomise another in another.


Midi wise Each track has its own midi out but the drum tracks can be sent either as discrete channels or as one channel with separate notes for kick, snare and hats/cymbal.


The more I dig into it, the more I like it. Imho, it's one of their best offerings to date.

I appreciate the details; sounds worthy of a demo despite my current goal of stopping the software purchasing insanity. It's fun to explore a bunch of different sequencer options but for software, I'd really like to pare it down to Stepic and maybe something like this (Dialekt) that's more directly suited to drums & perc. Have you tried driving external VIs with Dialekt yet? If so, any issues with parameter data transmittal? Is sending parameter data to an external VI useful or is it too highly specific to functions within Dialekt?

Just realized DiaLEKT .... ELEKTron ... Yeah I'm slow.

[Funky40]

Steps are similar to Elektron's parameter locks where each step can have its own unique set of parameters.

you do trigger me


i´m desperatly in need for something sort of a Elektron replacement in SW.
How´s the P-locking working ?
like: press a stepp button down, turn a parameter (@Elektron)

i searched in that video, found no infos.
where do i have to look for infos ?
Manual ? which section ?


or are there any other drum thingies in SW i could or should look at ?


and thanks for that report !

[kraster]

Steps are similar to Elektron's parameter locks where each step can have its own unique set of parameters.

you do trigger me


i´m desperatly in need for something sort of a Elektron replacement in SW.
How´s the P-locking working ?
like: press a stepp button down, turn a parameter (@Elektron)

i searched in that video, found no infos.
where do i have to look for infos ?
Manual ? which section ?


or are there any other drum thingies in SW i could or should look at ?


and thanks for that report !

If you have Ableton Live Suite then Fors OPAL is the closest thing you'll get to an Elektron style box on a computer.

It was made by a dude who was involved with the design of the Digitakt and Digitone.

But Dialekt can do the full parameter locking thing.

On the synth paged you can select. Step, Pattern, Part or Song. In step mode you select a step in the sequencer and tweak the parameters and that locks the parameters to that step.

That where the whole hierarchical thing comes into it. If you select the pattern while in Abs (absolute mode) then it overrides the step parameters, if you select the part then it overrides the pattern settings and song overrides them all.

But in relative mode you could for example have different filter values on each step (by adjusting them in step mode) and then scale them all in that pattern using the relative setting in pattern, part or song mode.



It took me a moment to click with it but it all makes sense.

[Funky40]

On the synth paged you can select. Step, Pattern, Part or Song. In step mode you select a step in the sequencer and tweak the parameters and that locks the parameters to that step.

I see. That sounds easy ! I´ll give it a try
(first: migrating to a new mac this weekend)

It took me a moment to click with it but it all makes sense.

This is good to hear !...sounds convincing

If you have Ableton Live Suite then Fors OPAL is the closest thing you'll get to an Elektron style box on a computer.

i have live and Opal.
Mainly: i try as much as i can to stay within GP (GigPerformer)
and i didn´t like opal too much.
I liked the sound, though ! But the handling with the mouse/trackpad was very fiddly for me. To prone to use failure. But kind of a "forced user failure".
Then again: i do work within GP

Thanks for the feedback !

[iowastate89]

The walk through video helped explain quite a bit of the param flow, enough to take a shot

[c0nsilience]

I usually prefer a user guide, but the tutorial/walk-through helped me get my head around a lot of the param flow.

It's the very first post in this thread.

[iowastate89]

I usually prefer a user guide, but the tutorial/walk-through helped me get my head around a lot of the param flow.

It's the very first post in this thread.

Ha I know, edited.. (thought it was the short intro vid)

[pekbro]

heh, demo auto-deleted by win security as severe threat.

[BoogerSnot]

iPhone version.

[Dr.Gunjah]

Absolutely inflated given that sugar bytes systematically abandons each plugin after release and moves on to the next without delivering vital updates or necessary improvements for the older ones. No, thanks.

That's my issue with sugar bytes too. They have some really cool plugins that emerged from great ideas, but they are not finalized. Drumcomputer is just one example ... it could be the one-to-rule-them-all solution for drum sequencing but bugs and missing features turn it into a half-assed tool.
I've also used Artillery2 for quite some time but it was abandoned completely so at this point it's dated obviously.

While demoing you really have to check every single use-case that may ever happen during later usage of the plugin because the chance of a feature request actually making it into the plugin seems to be almost zero.

So yeah, as long as they just keep releasing new plugins and show no love at all for their existing products, I have no intention to ever buy anything again from them.

[cel4145]

I cant see why I would want this in a DAW for 99E, but it looks aimed as a phone/ipad app,
I think it will be cool on an ipad (reminds me of Drum Computer which is very good app with AUM). I had a quick look, not on Apple Store yet...

I was thinking the same thing. But I didn't see AuV3 support?

Think I'll stick with working with Groove Rider 2 which came out within the last 2 months. And based on the recent update, looks like will be under active development

https://thebeatcommunity.com/2025/03/12 ... updated-2/