Saturation -what do you use ?

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I just run everything through my Marshall JCM800.

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Trackwarmth.

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hotmitts wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:08 pm You mean learn the craft as opposed to buying shedloads of plugins and throwing them at the mix ? Haha Yes i take your point, might be time to take some tutorials.
I was interested though what saturation might add, watched one tutorial which suggests it's either to rough up something, or smooth it out, which may help in choosing what flavour to add.
Sadly yes.
Unless you have unlimited budget I would strongly suggest waiting until you understand sonically what you are looking for.

But how can you learn without hands on experience you ask? No one knows, because we all started out by buying a bunch of plugins. But we will all happily tell you 'don't do that' and leave it there. Good luck!

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ROTMetro wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:12 pm =
Unless you have unlimited budget I would strongly suggest waiting until you understand sonically what you are looking for.

But how can you learn without hands on experience you ask? No one knows, because we all started out by buying a bunch of plugins. But we will all happily tell you 'don't do that' and leave it there. Good luck!
Well I've stayed mostly within the Reason Studio environment, sticking with the stock EQ's and devices (with a few Rack devices) , trying to learn the basic stuff, but there's always more to learn.
I saw that as limiting, but in a way i have learnt from limiting myself.

However I fancied treating myself to some stuff that's more advanced than what you get inside Reason, namely subtle saturations.

I did decide after making this thread to get U-he Satin on the second hand market, it was reasonably priced, flexible, and a good developer (no invasive protection stuff), and for the same reasons also got Kazrog True Iron for subtle tube flavours.
Didn't spend too painfully and got new options to play with

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I’d say that u-He Presswork is maybe better for saturation than Satin. It can be ‘tuned’ with the warmth knob and adjusted to react more to dynamics with that knob, set the amount to taste. You get the bonus of a good compressor as well, but you can leave the threshold at 0 and just use the saturation.

Satin is nice for some general tone shaping as well though, with the pre-emphasis, bump and tape speed. Plus you get the delay and flanger. Hmmmm, you should get both of them!!

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DMG68 wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:22 pm I’d say that u-He Presswork is maybe better for saturation than Satin. It can be ‘tuned’ with the warmth knob and adjusted to react more to dynamics with that knob, set the amount to taste. You get the bonus of a good compressor as well, but you can leave the threshold at 0 and just use the saturation.

Satin is nice for some general tone shaping as well though, with the pre-emphasis, bump and tape speed. Plus you get the delay and flanger. Hmmmm, you should get both of them!!
haha, have to save up.
I've just been demoing the Tone Architect by Teletone Audio which I'm also liking, it's so easy to use, the difference is very audible but somehow subtle without getting too 'nasty'

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soz

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Can't go wrong with Fuse Audio Labs and Neold preamp / analog hardware emulations such as their Big AL

Unlike standard waveshaper based saturation tools, they don't sound overly harsh and bright on breakup (the point where the saturation becomes obvious). The free Fuse Audio VPRE-72 is a great option for a start.

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jtsterays wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 6:22 pm Trackwarmth.
:o Is this in beta now?

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peterjsd wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 7:40 pm
jtsterays wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 6:22 pm Trackwarmth.
:o Is this in beta now?
and what is it ? Doesn't come up in search

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hotmitts wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:20 pm
peterjsd wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 7:40 pm
jtsterays wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 6:22 pm Trackwarmth.
:o Is this in beta now?
and what is it ? Doesn't come up in search
A future plugin in DMG's "Track" series

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The Cut Classics High Flyer saturation is a thing of beauty.

It has DSP contributions by Jatin Chowdhury and Andrew Simper so it's no wonder it sounds so good.

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Tone Projects Kelvin seems to cover most of my needs. I've had it pretty much since it came out and although I'd like to say I now know it inside out and play it like a precision instrument, in truth what I've learnt over all these years of using it is just to stick to the simple things it does well (saturation) and don't get lost in the right hand side shaping stuff.

And if I can just "flush and go", the main reason I use this is because I absolutely do not want any aliasing artefacts introduced into my signal and this plugin provided the cleanest saturation, i.e. free from aliasing, when I tested it many years ago.

You may not think that's important. I do.

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peterjsd wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 7:40 pm
jtsterays wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 6:22 pm Trackwarmth.
:o Is this in beta now?
idk

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dastewart wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 9:19 am Tone Projects Kelvin seems to cover most of my needs. I've had it pretty much since it came out and although I'd like to say I now know it inside out and play it like a precision instrument, in truth what I've learnt over all these years of using it is just to stick to the simple things it does well (saturation) and don't get lost in the right hand side shaping stuff.

And if I can just "flush and go", the main reason I use this is because I absolutely do not want any aliasing artefacts introduced into my signal and this plugin provided the cleanest saturation, i.e. free from aliasing, when I tested it many years ago.

You may not think that's important. I do.
absolutely agree

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