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What is the ultimate 'future classic' Behringer synth?
- KVRAF
- 3714 posts since 21 Nov, 2015
We all know that in near future people will not use Moogs anymore but Behringers, so which one will become the ultimate classic in 2049.
Lets discuss.
Lets discuss.
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- KVRAF
- 12243 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
The only Behringer synths I've owned from the list are the TD-3 and TD-3 MO, which are both excellent IMO, but I voted for the Deepmind because it's a very powerful synth, an original design, and the price is pretty astounding for its feature set and sound. It's been on my to-buy list for a while now, I'm just waiting for the next good deal to come along.
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- KVRian
- 1347 posts since 29 Sep, 2012 from Minnesota
I voted 2600 just because the original was a classic and Behringer added an LFO and made it smaller.
Also, you forgot Edge which is also an upgrade of its inspiration.
Also, you forgot Edge which is also an upgrade of its inspiration.
- addled muppet weed
- 111326 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
well they might get around to finally releasing the vcs3 by 2049 so thats my choiceEl°HYM wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 9:30 am We all know that in near future people will not use Moogs anymore but Behringers, so which one will become the ultimate classic in 2049.![]()
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- KVRAF
- 8732 posts since 24 May, 2002 from Tutukaka, New Zealand
Seconded. Unfortunately I'll be dead by then though. 
I suppose I might be alive but I'll be pretty decrepit, I'd imagine. Arthritic fingers will find small Behringer knobs hard to twiddle.
I suppose I might be alive but I'll be pretty decrepit, I'd imagine. Arthritic fingers will find small Behringer knobs hard to twiddle.
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- KVRAF
- 2598 posts since 15 Feb, 2006 from Another Green World
With all the money Behringer saves by stealing others' designs, I'm sure they could throw in a free tube of Bengay for ya!kritikon wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 10:11 pm Seconded. Unfortunately I'll be dead by then though.
I suppose I might be alive but I'll be pretty decrepit, I'd imagine. Arthritic fingers will find small Behringer knobs hard to twiddle.
- KVRian
- 991 posts since 24 May, 2024
I'm all for the musical progress... on a budget.
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Excessive patent acquisition and enforcement is strangling innovation somewhat.
I used to believe the exact opposite.
But that's just my 2 cents.
We all got opinions.
Mine is no better than anybody else's.
Thanks for the video.
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- KVRian
- 1347 posts since 29 Sep, 2012 from Minnesota
Maybe the next thing won’t be A thing but a combination of two things played together. In the 70s and 80s it was always one synth that someone was playing that had a great sound, but today many people’s first synth is going to be a Behringer and they may not bother switching channels and just leave them on midi 1 to play together. Perhaps an Edge and a Grind played together in some formulation that can’t be imagined without expirimentation will create the next hit. Time will tell.
- KVRAF
- 11386 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
I voted Deepmind but my gut tells me it's going to be the Neutron. It is an original design and has a very distinct sound (partially due to some bad design decisions). It's unique and cannot be duplicated, though the Proton probably gets close.
All it takes is for somebody to create a massive hit with it and say that the Neutron was a key ingredient.
I don't think Behringer have sold all that many of them either so they could possibly be considered "rare" at some point 30 years from now. Unfortunately they are quite badly built so not sure they will last that long.
All it takes is for somebody to create a massive hit with it and say that the Neutron was a key ingredient.
I don't think Behringer have sold all that many of them either so they could possibly be considered "rare" at some point 30 years from now. Unfortunately they are quite badly built so not sure they will last that long.
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- KVRAF
- 18492 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
Their legacy, so far, is bringing cheap analog to the masses, which is not nothing, but also not something that will ever be called a “classic.”
Now will they take what they’ve learned about building clones and use that knowledge to make something unique that can become a “classic?” Sure, but I don’t see any evidence that they care about that segment of the market.
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- KVRAF
- 18492 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
It takes more than a somewhat unique design to get to “classic” status. I think a lot of the Behringer synths sound great, but the Deepmind and Neutron aren’t among them.bmanic wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 5:13 am I voted Deepmind but my gut tells me it's going to be the Neutron. It is an original design and has a very distinct sound (partially due to some bad design decisions). It's unique and cannot be duplicated, though the Proton probably gets close.
All it takes is for somebody to create a massive hit with it and say that the Neutron was a key ingredient.
I don't think Behringer have sold all that many of them either so they could possibly be considered "rare" at some point 30 years from now. Unfortunately they are quite badly built so not sure they will last that long.
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- KVRAF
- 11386 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
I disagree. It's probably 95% luck and whatever the current in vogue trend decides (usually based on a few new hits or a new music genre that has been born and exposed to the mainstream).zerocrossing wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 7:03 pm It takes more than a somewhat unique design to get to “classic” status. I think a lot of the Behringer synths sound great, but the Deepmind and Neutron aren’t among them.
History is full of examples of not very practical or even "bad sounding" synths (as judged by people of the year when the synth was released) that became classics later.
However, there is one disadvantage Behringer has. They don't have a single truly expensive and exclusive synth. Those almost always become classics because of the same mentality that people have towards other expensive and rare things. Behringer will obviously never have one of these types of classics.
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- KVRAF
- 18492 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
I don’t think we’ll ever see the kinds of things like a TR-808 get rejected. Synthesis was still a fairly new thing in pop music when that happened. Everyone is now sophisticated enough to not be surprised by something out of the ordinary. Has there been anything like that since the 80s? I can’t recall anything that was initially rejected that became popular at a later time.bmanic wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 7:06 pmI disagree. It's probably 95% luck and whatever the current in vogue trend decides (usually based on a few new hits or a new music genre that has been born and exposed to the mainstream).zerocrossing wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 7:03 pm It takes more than a somewhat unique design to get to “classic” status. I think a lot of the Behringer synths sound great, but the Deepmind and Neutron aren’t among them.
History is full of examples of not very practical or even "bad sounding" synths (as judged by people of the year when the synth was released) that became classics later.
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- KVRAF
- 11386 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
That's actually a good point. Market saturation is so big that it will inevitably play a role in the future "classics".zerocrossing wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 7:12 pm I don’t think we’ll ever see the kinds of things like a TR-808 get rejected. Synthesis was still a fairly new thing in pop music when that happened. Everyone is now sophisticated enough to not be surprised by something out of the ordinary. Has there been anything like that since the 80s? I can’t recall anything that was initially rejected that became popular at a later time.
Maybe if somebody invents a completely unique type of synthesis and it's really TRULY unique sounding.. and expensive, that may be a guaranteed recipe for classic status in 30 years time?
Still.. I do think endorsement of artists is going to be key (or a group of artists in a "new" genre). If a bunch of songs are all made up of one very obvious and prevalent sound, using one preset, then whatever synth that has that preset will inevitably become a classic, no matter who made the synth or how much it cost.
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