I don't think they necessarily have to invent or discover a new type of synthesis, as much as they would just have to offer a cool and maybe novel example of existing technology. Hell, do something like the Korg KingKORG, but using actual analog circuits and I think people would go nuts. Make the Poly Pro 2 or 3 style synth that Sequential never will. Or maybe go nuts and do a hybrid with an additive engine. Those are just some quick things I could think of off the top of my head.bmanic wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:55 pmThat's actually a good point. Market saturation is so big that it will inevitably play a role in the future "classics".zerocrossing wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 7:12 pm I don’t think we’ll ever see the kinds of things like a TR-808 get rejected. Synthesis was still a fairly new thing in pop music when that happened. Everyone is now sophisticated enough to not be surprised by something out of the ordinary. Has there been anything like that since the 80s? I can’t recall anything that was initially rejected that became popular at a later time.
Maybe if somebody invents a completely unique type of synthesis and it's really TRULY unique sounding.. and expensive, that may be a guaranteed recipe for classic status in 30 years time?
Still.. I do think endorsement of artists is going to be key (or a group of artists in a "new" genre). If a bunch of songs are all made up of one very obvious and prevalent sound, using one preset, then whatever synth that has that preset will inevitably become a classic, no matter who made the synth or how much it cost.
What is the ultimate 'future classic' Behringer synth?
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- 18492 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
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- 3714 posts since 21 Nov, 2015
I really hope they will clone the Hydrasynth next.
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- 18492 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
Why?
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- KVRian
- 1161 posts since 14 Oct, 2006 from france
One of their own, still yet to come. But owning the wave, the pro 1, the 2600, the solina, the wasp, i can say they already have a lot of homeruns, but are clones of classics future classics ?
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- KVRian
- 1321 posts since 28 Sep, 2012 from Norway
Present classic: Here now, gone tomorrow?
I hope mine last. Deepmind 6, TB 303 MO(or wuzzitzname), Neutron, Pro 800... I love them and was almost tempted to buy a Deepmind 12D today. 6 is enough. I would vote for the Deepmind as a present and future classic. From quick and easy on the front, very deep if you dive into the menu, at least in my opinion.
I hope mine last. Deepmind 6, TB 303 MO(or wuzzitzname), Neutron, Pro 800... I love them and was almost tempted to buy a Deepmind 12D today. 6 is enough. I would vote for the Deepmind as a present and future classic. From quick and easy on the front, very deep if you dive into the menu, at least in my opinion.
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- 745 posts since 15 May, 2003 from R'lyeh
Out of this list, maybe the Deepmind but even that's pushing it. All of these are just Behringer copying someone else's already released product. I don't see how Behringer can have a 'future classic' when that synth already existed, and Behringer put forth very little effort into doing anything other than cloning. Making someone else's design dirt cheap through slave labor, doesn't make them the new Roland or Moog.
Don't get me wrong, I love my cheap Behringer stuff too, but nothing Uli has done since day 1 is ever going to put him above being a copycat with absolutely no ideas of his own.
Don't get me wrong, I love my cheap Behringer stuff too, but nothing Uli has done since day 1 is ever going to put him above being a copycat with absolutely no ideas of his own.
- KVRAF
- 11386 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
.. but that is NOT true for Deepmind, Neutron and Proton. Those are unique designs. And you could argue that it's also true for their Oberheim thing as it's modulation matrix capabilities makes it a lot more flexible than the original and thus takes it into completely new territory.mothra wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 5:53 pm Out of this list, maybe the Deepmind but even that's pushing it. All of these are just Behringer copying someone else's already released product. I don't see how Behringer can have a 'future classic' when that synth already existed,
I really wish Behringer would use all that know-how and money to create more of their own unique designs. So far they've been awesome when they have done it. Partially we the consumers are to blame. Kind of like how we live in an era where sequels and known franchises is all we get when it comes to movies and TV shows.. nobody is willing to take risks of new IP when consumers crave rehashed classics over and over.
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- KVRAF
- 8731 posts since 24 May, 2002 from Tutukaka, New Zealand
Agree. Neutron is one of the more unique and distinctive filters out there IMO. On both Proton and Neutron, the morphing oscillators aren't particularly common, and Proton wavefolding is even less common with nothing immediately springing to mind as an equivalent analogue synth, unless you go into modular territory. I think Behringer have proved they definitely are capable of creating their own unique synths, but it's just not their focus, doesn't have to be. They do well enough with the more usual stuff, and I for one love it. Of course I'd be happy for the occasional unique Behringer, but I'll hoover up all these classic redone synths at a fraction of real prices. What's not to like about cheap analogue?
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- KVRian
- 1452 posts since 9 Feb, 2007 from San Ramon, California
None of the clones. The Neutron and Proton are interesting but not sufficiently interesting to me to consider buying one of them. I guess the Deepmind is sort of a clone, but it is interesting to me, especially in a module version. Sill, I don’t think it a “classic” and if I were to buy a hardware synth in the next couple of years, there are a few others I would buy first.
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- KVRAF
- 1769 posts since 1 Aug, 2006 from Italy
I'm not into this specific brand, but I think the more "relevant" and "unavailable" the original, the more interesting the B version will be.
So, I think their takes on the Minimoog and 303 are safe bets, maybe also their 2600 (but it's more expensive). Probably also the Deepmind, although it's a relatively simple polysynth... it highly depends on fashion and also on the competing products available in the future (also in software format). The more those instruments are tweaked while playing, the more relevant their hardware clones will be.
The other synths could end up being more "rare"... but it really depends on fashion...
So, I think their takes on the Minimoog and 303 are safe bets, maybe also their 2600 (but it's more expensive). Probably also the Deepmind, although it's a relatively simple polysynth... it highly depends on fashion and also on the competing products available in the future (also in software format). The more those instruments are tweaked while playing, the more relevant their hardware clones will be.
The other synths could end up being more "rare"... but it really depends on fashion...