Hi, I'm using the Wavestate (Mk1 hardware) for some experimental sound design and want to use mostly my own samples. It's such a weird machine.. apparently aimed at covers bands, as a party synth or being able to play a song with one finger in layers, or as a standard rompler. None of those things interest me, but instead the potential for wild sound design. The randomize feature is a huge part of that, and even some of the effects settings yield musical results on their own. The filters and envelopes are quite musical too, which gives me the playability I need.
But.. so far I havent generated any random patches that used user samples even though there are quite a few uploaded. It's not in the manual, but is this some kind of limitation? I really wish randomize had a bit more granularity about which samples and programs to use. Can anyone comment?
Korg Wavestate - randomizer with user samples?
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- KVRist
- 76 posts since 29 Nov, 2016
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- KVRAF
- 8731 posts since 24 May, 2002 from Tutukaka, New Zealand
I don't think you can randomise user samples that way, but TBH I don't use user samples on mine at all, so I could be wildly wrong. From what I remember of the dice button, you can set up what you want to randomise - filters, FX, wavesequences lanes etc, but I don't remember the actual oscillators being an option.
As for " It's such a weird machine.. apparently aimed at covers bands, as a party synth or being able to play a song with one finger in layers, or as a standard rompler" - you can do any and all of those things on Wavestate (and some of their other synths) but I don't see it being specifically aimed at those. It was released as a mega complex evolution of Wavestation, capable of incredible depth and programmability that you can take as deep as you want to go, I never saw it as a covers band synth or party machine - quite the opposite, as it's such a bastard to programme. They gave a nod towards people who didn't want to get into deep synthesis with their patches, same as any other synth. TBH Wavestation/Wavestate was far more of a synth nerd's synth IMO. I'd be surprised if many covers band keyboardists bought a Wavestate
. Korg have plenty of other synths that fulfill that role...
As for " It's such a weird machine.. apparently aimed at covers bands, as a party synth or being able to play a song with one finger in layers, or as a standard rompler" - you can do any and all of those things on Wavestate (and some of their other synths) but I don't see it being specifically aimed at those. It was released as a mega complex evolution of Wavestation, capable of incredible depth and programmability that you can take as deep as you want to go, I never saw it as a covers band synth or party machine - quite the opposite, as it's such a bastard to programme. They gave a nod towards people who didn't want to get into deep synthesis with their patches, same as any other synth. TBH Wavestation/Wavestate was far more of a synth nerd's synth IMO. I'd be surprised if many covers band keyboardists bought a Wavestate
. Korg have plenty of other synths that fulfill that role...-
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 76 posts since 29 Nov, 2016
Yes, at the moment that's not one of the options for randomize. I'm just not sure yet if randomize ever creates new sounds using the user samples when an entire performance is randomized. I would need to increase the ratio of multisamples to factory ones I guess. It's a tedious process to create those for a sample library. Individually is fine, but my goal is to change the character of the synth into more experiemental sound design territory by changing the majority of its sample-oscillators. The factory samples kind of offend my musical taste lol. I even tried to automate it by reverse engineering the files but they are in proprietary binary format.
I think the sound packs that are available for Wavestate show a lot of what the demand is for, and it's mostly cheese! Some of the ethereal pads are lovely, but I'm more interested in rhythmic and textural things.
I did see Trentemøller using one in his shoegaze band, probably as a rompler/sampler.
For me it's an almost brilliant synth. Doing some sound design sessions will yield stuff that I can use but I hope to make it even more usable. I have a dream that someone jailbreaks the raspberry pi inside with some crazy new vst / os that makes it more fun and interesting. In theory it might be possible though coding something like that would be a massive job.
I think the sound packs that are available for Wavestate show a lot of what the demand is for, and it's mostly cheese! Some of the ethereal pads are lovely, but I'm more interested in rhythmic and textural things.
I did see Trentemøller using one in his shoegaze band, probably as a rompler/sampler.
For me it's an almost brilliant synth. Doing some sound design sessions will yield stuff that I can use but I hope to make it even more usable. I have a dream that someone jailbreaks the raspberry pi inside with some crazy new vst / os that makes it more fun and interesting. In theory it might be possible though coding something like that would be a massive job.